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Post by seventeen on Feb 27, 2017 16:19:20 GMT -5
Burrows is having a better year than he's had in the last few. But we need a centre. Burrows would not solve anything for us. Berg's in a tough spot. I think we'll end up with much the same team we have now, hoping the new coach can make a difference and maybe a call-up from St. John's (Hudon).
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Post by seventeen on Feb 27, 2017 16:33:28 GMT -5
Habs trade Pateryn and 2017 4rd pick for Jordie Benn. Even trade. A rightie for a leftie. Pateryn gets out of jail and a higher net income. I feel good for him.
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 17:19:13 GMT -5
Piece going other way for Burrows is Jonathan Dahlen. Son of Ulf. Pretty highly touted prospect.
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Post by franko on Feb 27, 2017 17:23:43 GMT -5
Piece going other way for Burrows is Jonathan Dahlen. Son of Ulf. Pretty highly touted prospect. initially not going over well in Ottawa, though some in Vancouver think that Burrows is a good-n on the lower 6 |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Feb 27, 2017 17:53:51 GMT -5
Dahlen is a very solid prospect. Playing well in SHL.
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Post by jkr on Feb 27, 2017 18:15:06 GMT -5
TSN reporting Brian Boyle to Leafs for Byron Faroese & a 2nd. Will look for a link.
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 27, 2017 18:25:29 GMT -5
Dahlen is a very solid prospect. Playing well in SHL. The Sens have a number of solid prospects... |
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Post by seventeen on Feb 27, 2017 18:55:08 GMT -5
Dahlen is averaging nearly a PPG (24-18-42 in 44 games) in the Swedish-1 league, which is one below the SHL. He's also leading his team in scoring just having turned 19 in late December. Those stats are pretty good. If he keeps progressing at that rate, it will be a good deal for the Canucks. They're not winning anything during Burrows' window anyway. I can't find a good comparison for Dahlen, but our own prospect, Lukas Vejdemo has 8 points in 43 games, albeit with Djurgarden in the tougher SHL. I think the price was higher than one would expect because Ottawa turned it into an extension and not just a rental.
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 21:50:24 GMT -5
Shattenkirk is off to Washington, pending the trade call.
Zach Sanford, condition on the second, and Blues are retaining some salary ... all further info from LeBrun.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 27, 2017 22:20:50 GMT -5
TSN is reporting the Islanders are in the Matt Duchene sweepstakes ... that would suck huge if he were to land there ...
Cheers.
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Post by Skilly on Feb 27, 2017 22:23:04 GMT -5
Washington is all in ... They slowed down of late and it didn't take their GM long to act and get someone without touching their core
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 22:26:30 GMT -5
TSN is reporting the Islanders are in the Matt Duchene sweepstakes ... that would suck huge if he were to land there ... Cheers. They eluded to it during the Insiders. No real mention of what an offer would be other than to throw darts and suggest Hamonic. I don't think he's the type of player the Avs have in mind. He's not a true #1, he's 26, and not a point producer. I suspect one of Barzal or Beauvillier would be involved, plus a pick. Maybe the Avs have decided they'll take the best they can get for Duchene, and get the defensive prospect(s) for Landeskog in the summer. Barzal, Beauvillier and a first would be a fantastic haul for Duchene. |
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 22:27:33 GMT -5
Washington is all in ... They slowed down of late and it didn't take their GM long to act and get someone without touching their core If Shattenkirk was a lhd, I'd have paid that price. |
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Post by blny on Feb 27, 2017 23:27:00 GMT -5
Add Brad Malone to the list going to the Blues.
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2017 0:23:41 GMT -5
Where to find some goals before Mar 1 3pm. These are players that we haven't discussed yet.
30th overall:
The Avalanche just don't come across as the right trading partner for me.
29th overall:
Arizona - Vrbata (15+31=46p): Pros - Still skates well and can score. Cons - Very soft, rw. Notes: His base salary is $1 million, but he's got bonuses. If he plays 30 games, it's 500k (that's paid out I assume by Coyotes because he's hit that). 20 goals or 40 points gets him another 500k (he's hit the 40 points). Undeclared playoff bonuses could net him another $1.25 million. He's a UFA.
Arizona - OEL: Not a scoring forward, no. But he's a very good pmd, lhd, 25, and signed for two more years at $5.5 million. He'd easily slot into our first pairing. I'd strongly consider moving Sergachev for him because he fits my criteria: under 26, so just in prime, elite pmd, and signed. His puck moving ability to would lead to more scoring chances for our forwards.
26th-28th:
Dallas - we've discussed Sharp.
Vancouver - don't have any pieces that interest me that would be available.
Detroit - we've discussed Vanek.
25th overall:
Carolina - Skinner: LW with a lot of skill. He's rebounding nicely after a tough year a couple of seasons ago. He and Faulk are the faces of the franchise. He'd be really expensive, and I'm not sure what they'd want. I'd definitely kick the tires though.
24th overall:
Winnipeg - don't think they make good trading partners. I think they need a shake up, but I don't think we'd be able to pry a guy like Wheeler away without giving up Sergachev.
23rd overall:
New Jersey - Cammalleri: He's got 2 years left at $5 million per, and a NTC. I highly doubt he waives it to come back to Montreal. I'd want to send Plekanec the other way to take on that contract ...
22nd overall:
Buffalo - Kane: leads the team in goals. That attitude though ... anyone else that might be available doesn't blow my skirt up.
21st overall:
Philadelphia - Simmonds: aka Kane without the attitude problem. Wayne would be a perfect fit. Hands, decent speed, grit, nose for net. No idea what they'd want. Flyers have defensive prospects in spades. He's got a contract as nice as Pacioretty's at $3.975 million. Imagine that much size and that many goals for less than $8 million a season ...
Philadelphia - Giroux: I'm afraid he's on the decline. He's not big, and he plays in the hard areas. Sending Galchenyuk back is a non-starter. Would Rather Simmonds.
20th overall:
Tampa - Johnson: small, but very skilled. They have huge cap implications. Callahan is a diminished asset taking up huge space. They may have to Pronger him. Flip has another year at $5 million. They gave Killorn $4.5 million a year to score 20 goals a season. Johnson and Palat are RFAs that will command as much or more than Killorn. Drouin is heading for a big raise. Hedman's big extension kicks in next year. Moving Bishop helped, but when Stamkos is back next year, and they don't have the LTIR relief, they're up Schitt Creek.
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 28, 2017 8:51:45 GMT -5
Where to find some goals before Mar 1 3pm. These are players that we haven't discussed yet. 30th overall: The Avalanche just don't come across as the right trading partner for me. 29th overall: Arizona - Vrbata (15+31=46p): Pros - Still skates well and can score. Cons - Very soft, rw. Notes: His base salary is $1 million, but he's got bonuses. If he plays 30 games, it's 500k (that's paid out I assume by Coyotes because he's hit that). 20 goals or 40 points gets him another 500k (he's hit the 40 points). Undeclared playoff bonuses could net him another $1.25 million. He's a UFA. Arizona - OEL: Not a scoring forward, no. But he's a very good pmd, lhd, 25, and signed for two more years at $5.5 million. He'd easily slot into our first pairing. I'd strongly consider moving Sergachev for him because he fits my criteria: under 26, so just in prime, elite pmd, and signed. His puck moving ability to would lead to more scoring chances for our forwards. 26th-28th: Dallas - we've discussed Sharp. Vancouver - don't have any pieces that interest me that would be available. Detroit - we've discussed Vanek. 25th overall: Carolina - Skinner: LW with a lot of skill. He's rebounding nicely after a tough year a couple of seasons ago. He and Faulk are the faces of the franchise. He'd be really expensive, and I'm not sure what they'd want. I'd definitely kick the tires though. 24th overall: Winnipeg - don't think they make good trading partners. I think they need a shake up, but I don't think we'd be able to pry a guy like Wheeler away without giving up Sergachev. 23rd overall: New Jersey - Cammalleri: He's got 2 years left at $5 million per, and a NTC. I highly doubt he waives it to come back to Montreal. I'd want to send Plekanec the other way to take on that contract ... 22nd overall: Buffalo - Kane: leads the team in goals. That attitude though ... anyone else that might be available doesn't blow my skirt up. 21st overall: Philadelphia - Simmonds: aka Kane without the attitude problem. Wayne would be a perfect fit. Hands, decent speed, grit, nose for net. No idea what they'd want. Flyers have defensive prospects in spades. He's got a contract as nice as Pacioretty's at $3.975 million. Imagine that much size and that many goals for less than $8 million a season ... Philadelphia - Giroux: I'm afraid he's on the decline. He's not big, and he plays in the hard areas. Sending Galchenyuk back is a non-starter. Would Rather Simmonds. 20th overall: Tampa - Johnson: small, but very skilled. They have huge cap implications. Callahan is a diminished asset taking up huge space. They may have to Pronger him. Flip has another year at $5 million. They gave Killorn $4.5 million a year to score 20 goals a season. Johnson and Palat are RFAs that will command as much or more than Killorn. Drouin is heading for a big raise. Hedman's big extension kicks in next year. Moving Bishop helped, but when Stamkos is back next year, and they don't have the LTIR relief, they're up Schitt Creek. Great summary. A player on Buffalo that I have always liked is Kulikov. He is another former Quebec Rampart a la Radulov that I think would love playing for Montreal. I was also pondering Cammallerri. That 2nd year is the only problem...I never wanted him gone in the first place, and especially not for Bourque. Would he come back? I think he would. It was the Gauthier regime that treated him like crap and it was Molson that made the amends with regards to his Jersey. I don't think it would cost much but I figure you'd have to send Plekanec salary back. You could do Desharnais but hope that New Jersey withholds some salary cap the next two years because the issue is more the next two with the big guys contracts coming up. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2017 12:31:42 GMT -5
Washington is all in ... They slowed down of late and it didn't take their GM long to act and get someone without touching their core What are you getting at Skilly?  |
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2017 12:35:59 GMT -5
Thanks Tankdriver
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Post by blny on Feb 28, 2017 13:29:22 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Feb 28, 2017 15:40:48 GMT -5
Washington is all in ... They slowed down of late and it didn't take their GM long to act and get someone without touching their core What are you getting at Skilly? Trades are soooooooo hard to make these days |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 28, 2017 16:17:41 GMT -5
Ottawa looks to be all in.
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Post by Tankdriver on Feb 28, 2017 16:40:18 GMT -5
Ottawa looks to be all in. They want the playoff gate money....They have almost no shot of winning the cup. |
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Post by jkr on Feb 28, 2017 17:33:39 GMT -5
I know it's Eklund but he referencing the Vancouver TSN reporter named Matt Sekrres. Sekrres says Jannik Hansen will not accept a move to MTL. Don't know if there was a deal in place though. Www.hockeybuzz.com |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 28, 2017 17:44:53 GMT -5
Ottawa looks to be all in. They want the playoff gate money....They have almost no shot of winning the cup. Ya but their GM is making moves... |
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Post by franko on Feb 28, 2017 17:52:57 GMT -5
They want the playoff gate money....They have almost no shot of winning the cup. Ya but their GM is making moves... big deal. it's a move to make a move. for the playoff gate. which Molson doesn't need to worry about. if it's about moves, MB just made one too. I think that MB has to be active tomorrow. a healthy Carey is not enough to win the Cup; the Habs need more. and a first or second round exit is not going to go well. Molson heard from the fans about PK, and an early exit means that the trade did not pan out and will mean Bergevin is on the hot seat. he needs more -- lots more -- and can't pull back from the gamble he took. so he'll either do something or start polishing his resume for the end of next year. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Feb 28, 2017 18:00:36 GMT -5
Ya but their GM is making moves... big deal. it's a move to make a move. for the playoff gate. which Molson doesn't need to worry about. if it's about moves, MB just made one too. I think that MB has to be active tomorrow. a healthy Carey is not enough to win the Cup; the Habs need more. and a first or second round exit is not going to go well. Molson heard from the fans about PK, and an early exit means that the trade did not pan out and will mean Bergevin is on the hot seat. he needs more -- lots more -- and can't pull back from the gamble he took. so he'll either do something or start polishing his resume for the end of next year. End of next year??? If he does nothing and they get bounced in the first round... how does he stay beyond the end of this year? He inherited a good young core to build on and we have nothing to show for it but an older core. |
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Post by Skilly on Feb 28, 2017 18:17:31 GMT -5
Sounds as if Patrick Sharp might be a Hab.
He is playing through an injury and being honest with teams looking ... hopefully MB walks away
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Post by seventeen on Feb 28, 2017 18:21:34 GMT -5
Depending what is given up for him, right? I like him better than a couple of guys I can think of on our forward lines.
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Post by franko on Feb 28, 2017 18:38:41 GMT -5
big deal. it's a move to make a move. for the playoff gate. which Molson doesn't need to worry about. if it's about moves, MB just made one too. I think that MB has to be active tomorrow. a healthy Carey is not enough to win the Cup; the Habs need more. and a first or second round exit is not going to go well. Molson heard from the fans about PK, and an early exit means that the trade did not pan out and will mean Bergevin is on the hot seat. he needs more -- lots more -- and can't pull back from the gamble he took. so he'll either do something or start polishing his resume for the end of next year. End of next year??? If he does nothing and they get bounced in the first round... how does he stay beyond the end of this year? He inherited a good young core to build on and we have nothing to show for it but an older core. Molson won't fire him until next year |
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Post by franko on Feb 28, 2017 18:39:53 GMT -5
Sounds as if Patrick Sharp might be a Hab. He is playing through an injury and being honest with teams looking ... hopefully MB walks away he's about the only rental I'm interested in. was injured earlier in the year, starting to improve. getting out of Dallas will be good for him |
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