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Post by Boston_Habs on May 7, 2017 17:17:36 GMT -5
PK with over 27 minutes of ice to lead the Preds. Pretty obvious who they are leaning on, and the irony is it's his DEFENSE where he is making his biggest impact.
Makes me want to cry but I hope they go to the Finals.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2017 17:20:22 GMT -5
PK with over 27 minutes of ice to lead the Preds. Pretty obvious who they are leaning on, and the irony is it's his DEFENSE where he is making his biggest impact. Makes me want to cry but I hope they go to the Finals. I'm sad and happy at the same time... sad we don't have PK but happy he's on a strong team going to the conference final and him being a big part of that... if the oilers make it he'll face mcdavid. |
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Post by blny on May 7, 2017 17:21:28 GMT -5
A team DID get better after that trade.... Subban with another masterful job of keeping the key Blues in check...some early-game bobbles, as the whole Preds' team was jittery. Somewhere Shea Weber's never been...Round 3. Might have something to do with Rinne giving up only 14 goals in 10 games so far too. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 7, 2017 17:27:21 GMT -5
A team DID get better after that trade.... Subban with another masterful job of keeping the key Blues in check...some early-game bobbles, as the whole Preds' team was jittery. Somewhere Shea Weber's never been...Round 3. Do you think if the Habs had a few goal scorers it would have made a difference? When it comes to goal scorers, IF has been the key word for a long time in Montreal. Just going by Bergevin's words after the trade. “We made a hockey decision to go ahead with Shea Weber and we believe we’re a better hockey team today, so we wish P.K. the best and now we’ll move forward with Shea Weber,” said Bergevin.Different, yes...but clearly not better...not in crunch time. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 7, 2017 17:30:47 GMT -5
A team DID get better after that trade.... Subban with another masterful job of keeping the key Blues in check...some early-game bobbles, as the whole Preds' team was jittery. Somewhere Shea Weber's never been...Round 3. Might have something to do with Rinne giving up only 14 goals in 10 games so far too. Rinne has been dialed in...but that Nashville D is better/deeper than ours in all areas. Price would fare just as well behind them. |
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Post by Skilly on May 7, 2017 18:16:44 GMT -5
Might have something to do with Rinne giving up only 14 goals in 10 games so far too. Rinne has been dialed in...but that Nashville D is better/deeper than ours in all areas. Price would fare just as well behind them. Sure, but we still need someone to put the puck in the net |
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Post by CentreHice on May 7, 2017 18:31:09 GMT -5
Rinne has been dialed in...but that Nashville D is better/deeper than ours in all areas. Price would fare just as well behind them. Sure, but we still need someone to put the puck in the net That's a given...ha! But I'm not talking about the Habs...I'm taking about Price being in Rinne's place....also enjoying the fact that his D would be generating a lot of playoff goals/points. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 7, 2017 18:34:03 GMT -5
1st period laugher in Edmonton. Gibson chased. Bernier with a blunder. 4-0 Oil.
Early yet, though....as far as Duck comebacks have gone in this series.
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Post by franko on May 7, 2017 18:43:27 GMT -5
Might have something to do with Rinne giving up only 14 goals in 10 games so far too. Rinne has been dialed in...but that Nashville D is better/deeper than ours in all areas. Price would fare just as well behind them. So it's not just PK? |
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Post by CentreHice on May 7, 2017 18:56:48 GMT -5
Rinne has been dialed in...but that Nashville D is better/deeper than ours in all areas. Price would fare just as well behind them. So it's not just PK? Don't believe I said it was...but I point to BH's post at the top of this page. Subban has definitely been a welcome addition. Asset management-wise, PK fit what Nashville needed more so than Weber fit what we needed. |
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Post by jkr on May 7, 2017 19:55:42 GMT -5
Huge game for Draisitl. 3 goals, 2 assists. Now 7-1 Oilers.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:42:23 GMT -5
Huge game for Draisitl. 3 goals, 2 assists. Now 7-1 Oilers. He's had a great series. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on May 7, 2017 20:56:09 GMT -5
The best HNIC play by play I have heard...the last almost two minutes of the Oiler victory.
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2017 23:21:29 GMT -5
A team DID get better after that trade.... Subban with another masterful job of keeping the key Blues in check...some early-game bobbles, as the whole Preds' team was jittery. Somewhere Shea Weber's never been...Round 3. Do you think if the Habs had a few goal scorers it would have made a difference? Of course it would have. If only the Hab's GM realized that and was willing to fix it. That's where a GM earns their money. Poile had the same issue 2 years ago. He knew he needed a centre. He traded an excellent young defenseman, Seth Jones, for Ryan Johansen. The Preds are very good at drafting defensemen, so he used depth in that position to get a guy he absolutely needed. If you reverse that trade, the Preds still have a good defense, but Mike Fisher becomes their #1 centre. Ain't gonna work. Poile fixed that. Then he sees the game changing and knows that transition is so much more important than being safe in your own end, and takes advantage of a guy who hasn't come to that conclusion yet, and is fixated on getting rid of one of the best defensemen in the league. By moving Jones and Weber, his defense is no worse off than it would have been (and probably better) and his offense is considerably improved. That's a GM who knows what they're doing and is planning 2 or 3 moves ahead. If only we had that kind of guy, instead of someone who 'looks' like he's working hard. |
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2017 23:25:01 GMT -5
A team DID get better after that trade.... Subban with another masterful job of keeping the key Blues in check...some early-game bobbles, as the whole Preds' team was jittery. Somewhere Shea Weber's never been...Round 3. I thought it was one of PK's worst games these playoffs. It looked to me like he's injured and playing through it. He still played 27 minutes, though, more than any other Pred. He was stapled to Tarasenko. That was Laviolette's intention and it worked except for one play early, when Watson blew an easy exit. You get stuck with the 4th line (as Subban and Ekholm often did) and occasionally it's going to bite you. |
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2017 23:26:06 GMT -5
A team DID get better after that trade.... Subban with another masterful job of keeping the key Blues in check...some early-game bobbles, as the whole Preds' team was jittery. Somewhere Shea Weber's never been...Round 3. Might have something to do with Rinne giving up only 14 goals in 10 games so far too. Yeah, but we have Price. But can't score. |
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2017 23:29:18 GMT -5
Don't believe I said it was...but I point to BH's post at the top of this page. Subban has definitely been a welcome addition. Asset management-wise, PK fit what Nashville needed more so than Weber fit what we needed. The game has changed. Speed and puck movement are so critical. When you look at Weber, do you see speed and puck movement? I wouldn't have traded Subban for Weber even up a year ago and that plane has tilted even more this year. Who knows, in a couple of years, Victor Mete might be better than Weber. |
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Post by blny on May 7, 2017 23:47:45 GMT -5
Might have something to do with Rinne giving up only 14 goals in 10 games so far too. Yeah, but we have Price. But can't score. Nashville has managed 2.8 goals a game if my math is right. It's a good recipe for success when you've given up half as many. They've had 4 games where they've given up just one, and two shutouts. Right now, the defense is driving the offense. In the last two games the Blues did manage to get on the Nashville d more. They slowed the pace and made life hard for a smaller d core. The big difference today was last change. Everyone in that top 4 can move the puck fast and take an effective one-timer. PK wasn't as sharp today, but it wasn't a factor. If Weber was still there, the Preds still have Josi and Ellis in the first pair and Weber and Ekholm in the second. Weber was fine for us, and given he can at least make decisions quickly, I don't think they'd be anywhere but where they are right now if he was. The Preds are getting enough production from their first line of Johansen-Forsberg-Arvidsson. They all skate well. RJ seems to have adapted to the wing pretty well. Production really drops off after that. Neal has been ok. Fisher is the only one that can consistently win a face off. They're doing it with one good offensive center in Forsberg and a vet that can win draws. If they face Anaheim, the Ducks can play that big, heavy, mean game better than the Blues tried to. If they play the Oilers, they'll face a team easily as fast as they are, and a few guys that can lean on them. Talbot gives the Oilers an edge over the Ducks imo, and is more likely to be able to match Rinne save for save. Gotta get there first though. |
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Post by jkr on May 8, 2017 5:51:03 GMT -5
Huge game for Draisitl. 3 goals, 2 assists. Now 7-1 Oilers. 7 goals for EDM and no points for McDavid. A little scary for opponents. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 8, 2017 7:19:06 GMT -5
PK with over 27 minutes of ice to lead the Preds. Pretty obvious who they are leaning on, and the irony is it's his DEFENSE where he is making his biggest impact. Makes me want to cry but I hope they go to the Finals. I'm very happy for PK Subban ... he's made some errors in the series, but for the most part he's been a rock ... he exceeded 27 minutes TOI in Games 3 and 6 where he led all Nashville skaters ... if you go through the remaining games you'll see that in most cases the TOI is somewhat evenly distributed amongst the defence corps ... in a lot of instances the difference in TOI might be a couple of additional shifts through the game but what a treat to watch an actual NHL-calibre blue line ... kind of reminds me of the 2002-03 Ottawa Senators blue line ... Redden, Chara, Phillips, Volchenkov, Rachunek ... and they only got better ... Cheers. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on May 8, 2017 15:35:33 GMT -5
Like Mike Emrick's play-by-play call in the Nashville/St Louis series ... a lot better listening to him than some of them on CBC/Sports Net ...
Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 17:56:44 GMT -5
Like Mike Emrick's play-by-play call in the Nashville/St Louis series ... a lot better listening to him than some of them on CBC/Sports Net ... Cheers. I generally like their broadcasters more...minus Milbury. Ah, well. Can't win 'em all. |
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Post by CentreHice on May 8, 2017 18:52:59 GMT -5
I got Marv Albert's son, Kenny Albert, on my feed from HNIC. Pierre McGuire was on colour. He was his usual self-inflated self....he really was!
Albert is really good, too. Fair and balanced.
Ron MacLean commented later that Albert names Jim Robson as a huge influence.
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Post by blny on May 8, 2017 19:36:31 GMT -5
Emrick,Albert and Cuthbert are a great trio.
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Post by jkr on May 8, 2017 19:56:15 GMT -5
2-0 Washington after a brutal giveaway by Hainsey leads to a softie as Fleury allows the puck to squeeze through on the short side. Hainsey has been awful tonight with a bad pinch in the 1st that led to a 3 on 1.
Pitt generally has nothing going, only 3 shots in the 1st period. Crosby took a header halfway through the first but is back in.
Pitt with only 8 shots after 2 periods.
EDIT:14 minutes left in the 3rd- 3-0 Washington.
Now 5 minutes to go. 5-0 Caps. Pitt with only 13 shots. Pretty pathetic when you consider what's at stake.
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Post by seventeen on May 9, 2017 1:24:49 GMT -5
I got Marv Albert's son, Kenny Albert, on my feed from HNIC. Pierre McGuire was on colour. He was his usual self-inflated self.... he really was! Albert is really good, too. Fair and balanced. Ron MacLean commented later that Albert names Jim Robson as a huge influence. Robson was always one of my favourites. Almost on a par with Danny Gallivan. I listened to him do radio games of the WHL Canucks when Andy Bathgate was still playing for them. I was just a teen then, and Robson was great. You could see the play as he described it on CKNW. Good times. |
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Post by blny on May 9, 2017 10:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on May 9, 2017 10:40:57 GMT -5
Can't get past USA Today subscription request. |
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Post by blny on May 9, 2017 10:52:14 GMT -5
Can't get past USA Today subscription request. Weird. It worked for me the first time I clicked on it. |
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Post by blny on May 9, 2017 10:54:34 GMT -5
Copy paste from article, which link works when I click on it from twitter post ...
"Concussion spotters didn't have the authority to pull Pittsburgh Penguins star Sidney Crosby from Game 6 on Monday because his head-first collision with the boards is not a "mechanism of injury" that allows that under their guidelines.
Crosby was slow to get off the ice after he became entangled with Washington Capitals goalie Braden Holtby and defenseman John Carlson in the first period of a 5-2 loss to the Caps in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference semifinal. Under the current concussion policy, the league’s central concussion spotter only would have been able to force Crosby out had his head hit the ice or another player.
“Depending on the mechanism of injury, ‘slow to get up’ does not trigger mandatory removal,” NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told USA TODAY Sports. “The protocol has to be interpreted literally to mandate a removal. ‘Ice’ as compared to ‘boards’ is in there for a reason. It’s the result of a study on our actual experiences over a number of years. ‘Ice’ has been found to be a predictor of concussions -- ‘boards’ has not been.”
Chris Nowinski, the co-founder and CEO of the Concussion Legacy Foundation, told USA TODAY Sports that the league has a “a poorly written policy that should be amended before the puck is dropped in another NHL game.”
“Any head contact is a possible mechanism of injury,” Nowinski said. “I can't believe we have to say that in 2017.”
Daly added that the concussion spotters don’t take a player’s concussion history into account. Crosby sustained his fourth reported concussion seven days prior in Game 3 of the series and missed the following game.
When asked after Monday’s game whether Crosby was checked for a concussion, Pens coach Mike Sullivan answered: “No.”
There are at least two spotters who monitor every NHL game, although --- unlike the NFL’s spotter system --- the in-arena spotter is a league official, and there’s no requirement to be certified athletic trainers (ATCs). Also unlike the NFL, the in-arena spotter has no power to remove a player from the game.
Only the central league spotter, who is an ATC and views the games from the league’s office, can call for a player’s removal.
The spotter system, put in place before the season, was added as an extra measure to assist team medical personnel, who still have the primary task of assessing and treating concussed players."
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