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Post by blny on Apr 13, 2018 9:40:15 GMT -5
Wingels didn't elbow Marner. It was his upper arm. Kadri was angry about something else not being called on him... Deliberately charged and jumped, throwing his hip into a vulnerable player's head area. Chara showed tremendous restraint there.... I say he gets 2 games. ============= Kadri's the only Leaf that reminds me of the Tucker-Domi-Roberts-Marchment-McCabe era. My least-favourite Leaf team by far. Komarov and Martin are reminiscent as well...but they're not as goony as Kadri. Echoing thoughts I've had most of the morning after seeing the play. He had two strides to see that the Bruins player was down, and he still threw himself at the player's head. Gutless play. Very Tucker-like.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 13, 2018 10:00:42 GMT -5
Kadri, post-game.
Well, initially, I just felt like he (Wingels) made contact with Mitchy's head, to start...and I didn't see a call there. And he was turned up the wall, so I was committed to the hit...and then, uh.....he ended up fallin'...I mean, it happened pretty quick. He was reachin' for the puck...so.....um....I haven't really watched it yet. But I don't think I stuck my leg out, or my arm out, or whatever the case is....
Amazing how clear the play is in his mind, until the hit....
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 13, 2018 10:31:15 GMT -5
What also made me smile was Cherry admitting, post-game, that he's for the Bruins all the way. He's done that before, so it's nothing new.
Just a reminder that he's been playing Leafs' fans for fools since ca. 1982.
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Post by clear observer on Apr 13, 2018 11:50:07 GMT -5
What also made me smile was Cherry admitting, post-game, that he's for the Bruins all the way. He's done that before, so it's nothing new. Just a reminder that he's been playing Leafs' fans for fools since ca. 1982. "...let's go Terrana, let's go!..."
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Post by blny on Apr 13, 2018 12:52:47 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be great if that was the only double knockout round? No survivors! lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 13:28:50 GMT -5
Kadri, post-game. Well, initially, I just felt like he (Wingels) made contact with Mitchy's head, to start...and I didn't see a call there. And he was turned up the wall, so I was committed to the hit...and then, uh.....he ended up fallin'...I mean, it happened pretty quick. He was reachin' for the puck...so.....um....I haven't really watched it yet. But I don't think I stuck my leg out, or my arm out, or whatever the case is....Amazing how clear the play is in his mind, until the hit.... Wingels was down well before Kadri finished his hit. He intended to follow through regardless of Wingels' positioning on the ice. The hit to Marner was a headshot, but Kadri complaining about that missed call is adorable considering his blatant knee-on-knee hit on Rick Nash was missed earlier in the game.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 13, 2018 16:12:11 GMT -5
Komarov is a pest and that's an understatement. Marchand goes way behind that, like with the 'licking' business with Komarov. Wonder how tough he'll be when Chara's not there?
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Post by seventeen on Apr 13, 2018 16:15:11 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be great if that was the only double knockout round? No survivors! lol I'd accept the winner of the Leafs/Bruins series all holding crutches as they limp to the team bus. I don't care who wins as long as they beat each other up. (Inside voice- too bad Kadri didn't connect better, then he'd get more games and Wingels would be out of the series.) Outside voice- It was an unfortunate hit and I'm sure Mr. Parros will deal with it appropriately.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 13, 2018 19:00:29 GMT -5
Kadri gets 3 games.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 13, 2018 19:04:04 GMT -5
I guess the league didn't believe Kadri's "I was committed to the hit, then he fell" story. Kadri's a repeat offender, no? That's gonna put a dent in their offence..... Hope they're not relying on Pleks for that....I'd be quite ticked if Pleks found his playoff scoring touch now....
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 13, 2018 21:04:47 GMT -5
Boudreau's gonna go nuts on the Wild after being outshot 43-17.
Domination by the Jets tonight. Wild roughing it up in the final seconds.
Good to see the Flyers win....make a series out of it.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 13, 2018 23:18:42 GMT -5
So far, 2 for 2 tonight and the Vegas/Kings game is up for grabs at 1-1 early in the 3rd. Vegas outshooting LA 27 to 13 so far. Two out of 3 the first night and 3 out of 5 on night 2. Not perfect but batting over .500 so far. I might as well gloat while I can since I'm likely to eat crow before it's over.
Nice to see Philly take one away from the Pens, and to see Murray as other than an immovable object and Malkin/Crosby as other than irresistible forces. Not that I like the Flyers either. That's the trouble with the US heavy playoffs which Bettman has subjected us to....there aren't many US teams I like.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 13, 2018 23:40:15 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 14, 2018 9:28:36 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 14, 2018 10:29:11 GMT -5
Joe Morrow...lol. Huge goal. He found some attitude in Winnipeg.... I don't think Marc Bergevin realizes what he's started when using "attitude" as an excuse for last year ... it's probably going to be the new buzzword as we wait a few years move forward in Marc Bergevin's acquittal tenure ...
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Post by seventeen on Apr 14, 2018 13:06:06 GMT -5
Exactly Dis, and it keeps confirming to me that he just isn't that bright. Anyone with average intelligence could figure out fairly quickly (1 to 2 seconds) that using attitude as an excuse was fraught with danger. How do you explain that comment to the guys who gave it everything they had (Gallagher, Deslauriers, Byron, Weber, etc)? How do you explain it to the leaders on the team (Price) or the coaching staff who were obviously frustrated with what they had to work with? You should figure out that people will see through it and then question the talent level 'accumulated' by the GM. Unless of course, you think it's a seriously smart strategy and that everyone will believe it. I wouldn't have gone near that excuse.
Seriously, he just isn't that bright, which explains the poor quality of people in the organization, the odd decisions that are made, the questionable trades, signings and non-signings, the inability to get a top centre and so on. Occam's Razor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 16:13:39 GMT -5
Aren't you guys glad we didn't squeak into the playoffs just to get lit up by Tampa?
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Post by folatre on Apr 14, 2018 19:39:00 GMT -5
Kadri, post-game. Well, initially, I just felt like he (Wingels) made contact with Mitchy's head, to start...and I didn't see a call there. And he was turned up the wall, so I was committed to the hit...and then, uh.....he ended up fallin'...I mean, it happened pretty quick. He was reachin' for the puck...so.....um....I haven't really watched it yet. But I don't think I stuck my leg out, or my arm out, or whatever the case is....Amazing how clear the play is in his mind, until the hit.... Wingels was down well before Kadri finished his hit. He intended to follow through regardless of Wingels' positioning on the ice. The hit to Marner was a headshot, but Kadri complaining about that missed call is adorable considering his blatant knee-on-knee hit on Rick Nash was missed earlier in the game. Although the weird thing (maybe not considering it is Nash who loves to embellish or invent things out of the thin air) is that Nash laughably grabbed his face to try to create the impression that he had been high sticked when obviously he had not. Why didn't he just grab his knee as he fell down to sell what actually appeared to happen? I agree. The ref could have called something on Wingels for throwing an elbow into Marner's mouth, but the bottom line remains that Kadri was out of control and watching the video it looks highly intentional. It looks like it is going to be a tough night for the Leafs, jeje.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 14, 2018 19:53:24 GMT -5
The Bruins are raining on Sportsnet's parade....with the exception of Cherry's, of course...
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 14, 2018 20:24:40 GMT -5
Cherry shows a clip of him saying that the Penguins shouldn't have poured it on in Game 1 vs. the Flyers....and once again returned to his PEDESTAL to say that he NEVER ran up the score.
I've been through his seasons as Bruins' coach.....and there are many 5+ goal wins.
In his first year alone, 1974-75...
8-2, 10-1, 10-4, 12-1, 11-3, 8-0, 6-0, 9-4, 8-0, 8-2.
Cherry's made a ton of career-building false claims....not to mention his share of Archie Bunkerisms....and they've been not only uncontested, but embraced and thereby considered "legit".
Thankfully, he's done a lot of good work with his celebrity.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 14, 2018 21:57:55 GMT -5
Pastrnak ties Bruins' (playoff?) record for 6 pts. in a game, sharing with Espo and Middleton......you're goin' back a ways there.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 14, 2018 22:19:49 GMT -5
I haven’t watched much of this series (hardly any actually) but the box scores suggest what has been the Leafs Achilles heel, which is goaltending. I haven’t yet been sold on Andersen. If he’s good the Leafs are really dangerous and if he’s not you have what we see today. Same thing with the Bruins btw, they’ve just jumped ahead. I think we may see Rask blow up if the pressure’s on.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 15, 2018 3:51:00 GMT -5
Hey Austin, did you even play?
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Post by jkr on Apr 15, 2018 6:56:33 GMT -5
Hey Austin, did you even play? Saw that interview. He looked like he was barely awake. It would be nice for Leaf fans if he looked like he cared.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 15, 2018 8:07:44 GMT -5
Sounds like somebody who's already had enough Toronto media pressure...a la Kessel. Very flippant response, considering he's a sophomore.
And I don't think Andersen has been terrible....it's just that the Bruins are controlling the Leafs' zone and getting really good looks.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 15, 2018 13:33:19 GMT -5
I'm thinking Austin Matthews was probably pretty pissed off at going down two games ... it's not that his team is all that bad, it's more of a case that the Bruins are that good ... quite impressed at how quickly that organization turned itself around ...
Cheers.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 15, 2018 14:50:59 GMT -5
And I'm not convinced they have turned themselves around that much. that quickly. When the puck is going in like it did on the 2nd (?) goal where a centering pass went in off a Leaf player, everyone looks good. Then it turns around and those pucks hit the post and the other guys throw the puck in for a line change, it hits a crack in the ice and goes in. It can change quickly and the Bruins have been on a nice run, so I'm think the pendulum is near or at the end of its upper swing.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 15, 2018 15:42:37 GMT -5
And I'm not convinced they have turned themselves around that much. that quickly. When the puck is going in like it did on the 2nd (?) goal where a centering pass went in off a Leaf player, everyone looks good. Then it turns around and those pucks hit the post and the other guys throw the puck in for a line change, it hits a crack in the ice and goes in. It can change quickly and the Bruins have been on a nice run, so I'm think the pendulum is near or at the end of its upper swing. Obviously, Cassidy's philosophy is different than Julien's. It reminds me of the transformation in Pittsburgh when Bylsma replaced Therrien. Basically the same rosters with a new plan of attack. Sure looks good to me. Go go go. How coincidental that we've had both firings re-hired here....
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 15, 2018 16:02:04 GMT -5
Holy Pasternak, that was some seriously shoddy defence and D zone coverage last night by the Leafs.
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Post by blny on Apr 15, 2018 16:11:19 GMT -5
I haven’t watched much of this series (hardly any actually) but the box scores suggest what has been the Leafs Achilles heel, which is goaltending. I haven’t yet been sold on Andersen. If he’s good the Leafs are really dangerous and if he’s not you have what we see today. Same thing with the Bruins btw, they’ve just jumped ahead. I think we may see Rask blow up if the pressure’s on. I wouldn't put the blame solely on Anderson's shoulders. The Bruins have man-handled the Leafs all over the ice. The Leafs vets - Kadri, JVR, etc - haven't been good. The Leafs core of Marner, Matthews and Nylander will be fine. They're 19-20 years old, and it's showing.
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