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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 15, 2018 18:14:59 GMT -5
Had a good chuckle when I read it ... quite the assessment on Tomas Plekanec, but I do think they'd be better off dressing Dominic Moore ... I guess there's panic in Leaf Nation ... for good reason, though ... To save the sinking Maple Leafs ship, Babcock needs
to put some personal beliefs asideDAVID SHOALTS
BOSTON
PUBLISHED APRIL 15, 2018
UPDATED 34 MINUTES AGOMike Babcock is the master of projecting resolve and determination from every fibre of his being ... Perhaps the best place Babcock can start with his list of repairs is himself. If the Leafs are to slow down the buzz saw that tore through them in the first two games of the series, the coach has to put aside at least some of his own beliefs. For example, his lack of trust in Dominic Moore and his persistent yet puzzling belief in Tomas Plekanec. All season long, Babcock looked elsewhere for a fourth-line centre while Moore played in fits and starts. It started in training camp with the Miro Aaltonen flirtation, then there was Eric Fehr for a bit, back to Moore, then Frédérik Gauthier and so on. Plekanec’s arrival at the trade deadline was supposed to end all that and give the Leafs someone who could play almost anywhere in the lineup. But the shock that the Montreal Canadiens traded him, the only NHL team he ever played for, seems to have been too much for Plekanec. Through two playoff games, the reluctant Czech was a mere spectator. He should never wear a Leafs sweater again ... Link |
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 15, 2018 20:59:04 GMT -5
Wonder if Captain Attitude really did have a trade/re-sign agreement with Pleks....
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 0:31:25 GMT -5
I think it was Mitch Melnicknwho wrote at the deadline that if Bergevin re-signed Pleks, he should be fired. Can’t agree more except of course that I think he should have been fired a couple of years ago.
I’ve always liked Dominic Moore. He and Max (Lapierre) made a great PK pair during our magical 2010 run. I can’t understand Babcock’s dislike of him either. Beginning to think Babcock has his vices too, which aren’t always right. He never cared for Subban either which was the first time I wondered about him. There have been a lot of questions this year about his use of Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. He’s showing that bias toward veterans like so many coaches.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 0:35:30 GMT -5
Couldn’t make a bad call if I wanted to yesterday. All my picks won. Today not so much. Vegas saved me this evening with a good 3-2 win. Thankfully Indiana best Lebrons Cavs or I’d have gone o’fer in basketball too. It’s like that some days. I’m glad the markets were closed.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2018 6:27:15 GMT -5
Washington on its way to yet another playoff fail.
0-2 going to Columbus.
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Post by jkr on Apr 16, 2018 6:36:41 GMT -5
I think it was Mitch Melnicknwho wrote at the deadline that if Bergevin re-signed Pleks, he should be fired. Can’t agree more except of course that I think he should have been fired a couple of years ago. I’ve always liked Dominic Moore. He and Max (Lapierre) made a great PK pair during our magical 2010 run. I can’t understand Babcock’s dislike of him either. Beginning to think Babcock has his vices too, which aren’t always right. He never cared for Subban either which was the first time I wondered about him. There have been a lot of questions this year about his use of Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. He’s showing that bias toward veterans like so many coaches. I can remember Engels saying that MB should be fired if he doesn't trade Plekanec. I don't follow Melnick so I'm not sure if he addresses this too. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 16, 2018 7:03:14 GMT -5
Couldn’t make a bad call if I wanted to yesterday. All my picks won. Today not so much. Vegas saved me this evening with a good 3-2 win. Thankfully Indiana best Lebrons Cavs or I’d have gone o’fer in basketball too. It’s like that some days. I’m glad the markets were closed. Looks like the Kings would have benefitted from picking up goal scoring at the deadline. They are down 0-3 and have scored just 3 goals in a little over 10 periods. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2018 7:40:43 GMT -5
Yeah, LA as my first round upset is not looking good right now.
Washington could definitely wrestle the playoff choke artist title from San Jose if they keep this mess up.
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2018 8:18:02 GMT -5
Washington on its way to yet another playoff fail. 0-2 going to Columbus. Ovi will likely shoulder the blame, but I think it's unfair. He's got 92 points in 99 playoff games. There's just something about that organization that seems to be cursed. Grubauer has started both games for the Caps. I'm not sure why Holtby, who won 32 games, is playing back up. How about Price and Pacioretty for Ovechkin and Holtby?  |
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2018 8:37:47 GMT -5
Washington on its way to yet another playoff fail. 0-2 going to Columbus. Ovi will likely shoulder the blame, but I think it's unfair. He's got 92 points in 99 playoff games. There's just something about that organization that seems to be cursed. Grubauer has started both games for the Caps. I'm not sure why Holtby, who won 32 games, is playing back up. How about Price and Pacioretty for Ovechkin and Holtby? Reports about Holtby working through a lower body injury back in late March....but here's a rundown (FWIW) from Rotoworld.Holtby appears to have been struggling since the All-Star break. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2018 9:37:21 GMT -5
Pleky on the second line. Alrighty then!! I guess they are really not happy with his play...lol.
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2018 10:11:58 GMT -5
Pleky on the second line. Alrighty then!! I guess they are really not happy with his play...lol. Should be interesting. Babcock going with experience.....maybe make that line better defensively, if nothing else. They might get the Bergeron, Pastrnak, Marchand assignment with last change...but are Marner and Marleau known for great defensive play? Kadri's suspension has thrown a wrench into the works. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 11:18:16 GMT -5
Washington on its way to yet another playoff fail. 0-2 going to Columbus. what is it about that city, huh? The Nationals are cursed by the ghosts of the 94 Expos. NO idea what's cursing the Capitals. THEIR NAME MAYBE? |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 11:22:07 GMT -5
I think it was Mitch Melnicknwho wrote at the deadline that if Bergevin re-signed Pleks, he should be fired. Can’t agree more except of course that I think he should have been fired a couple of years ago. I’ve always liked Dominic Moore. He and Max (Lapierre) made a great PK pair during our magical 2010 run. I can’t understand Babcock’s dislike of him either. Beginning to think Babcock has his vices too, which aren’t always right. He never cared for Subban either which was the first time I wondered about him. There have been a lot of questions this year about his use of Matthews, Marner, and Nylander. He’s showing that bias toward veterans like so many coaches. I can remember Engels saying that MB should be fired if he doesn't trade Plekanec. I don't follow Melnick so I'm not sure if he addresses this too. I knew it was one of the other. Ok, let's go with Engels. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2018 11:23:34 GMT -5
Pleky on the second line. Alrighty then!! I guess they are really not happy with his play...lol. Should be interesting. Babcock going with experience.....maybe make that line better defensively, if nothing else. They might get the Bergeron, Pastrnak, Marchand assignment with last change...but are Marner and Marleau known for great defensive play? Kadri's suspension has thrown a wrench into the works. Marleau And marner need to learn to play a 200 foot game |
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2018 11:26:16 GMT -5
Washington on its way to yet another playoff fail. 0-2 going to Columbus. what is it about that city, huh? The Nationals are cursed by the ghosts of the 94 Expos. NO idea what's cursing the Capitals. THEIR NAME MAYBE? Maybe it's because of this youtu.be/tQLEzOgZbm8 |
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2018 11:31:22 GMT -5
what is it about that city, huh? The Nationals are cursed by the ghosts of the 94 Expos. NO idea what's cursing the Capitals. THEIR NAME MAYBE? Maybe it's because of this youtu.be/tQLEzOgZbm8Never gets old. Wonder where he is now lol. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Apr 16, 2018 11:41:52 GMT -5
Anyone else surprised the Kings are down 3-0 to start. I wasn't expecting that.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2018 11:48:17 GMT -5
Never gets old. Wonder where he is now lol. in a fetal position... like most Caps fans are every playoffs. |
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2018 12:16:05 GMT -5
Anyone else surprised the Kings are down 3-0 to start. I wasn't expecting that. I haven't been watching the series too closely, but what I've seen MAF was spectacular in game 3. VGK is the faster team. Doughty and Muzzin were back last game. Muzzin was hurt, so it's hard to say how healthy he really is. |
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2018 12:22:39 GMT -5
Anyone else surprised the Kings are down 3-0 to start. I wasn't expecting that. I haven't been watching the series too closely, but what I've seen MAF was spectacular in game 3. VGK is the faster team. Doughty and Muzzin were back last game. Muzzin was hurt, so it's hard to say how healthy he really is. Come on, blny.....enough excuses. It's obvious! The Kings have a bad attitude...  |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 12:34:19 GMT -5
Drew Doughty, the wunderkind, got caught expecting his teammates to win the battle and get him the puck behind the net and then ooops, what's that guy Karlsson doing in front all alone? I shouldn't pick on Doughty because he's an excellent defenceman, but he rarely gets criticized for anything. He makes the same mistakes even the best defensemen do, and that's partly why he's great, because he takes the right risks at the right time, most of the time. But he does make mistakes. If only he had a better attitude.
(Is Bergevin ever going to regret that excuse)
(I wonder if we can sneak a "No Talent" sign into the dressing room before training camp. Sign it, 'Marc Bergevin'. See what reaction we get)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:10:55 GMT -5
Kopitar takes the butt end of a stick to the face. No call. Possibly no suspension either, because why would there be.
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2018 13:20:47 GMT -5
I haven't been watching the series too closely, but what I've seen MAF was spectacular in game 3. VGK is the faster team. Doughty and Muzzin were back last game. Muzzin was hurt, so it's hard to say how healthy he really is. Come on, blny.....enough excuses. It's obvious! The Kings have a bad attitude... A slow attitude. |
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2018 13:21:15 GMT -5
Kopitar takes the butt end of a stick to the face. No call. Possibly no suspension either, because why would there be. That the play that has them calling for a suspension to Haula? |
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Post by blny on Apr 16, 2018 13:24:47 GMT -5
The angle from away, at around the 1 minute mark, makes it look like he barely touched him. Near as I can tell the stick was not poking passed his glove, which defines a true butt end for me.
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Post by franko on Apr 16, 2018 14:04:36 GMT -5
boys on 690 suggesting that Bergeron, Pastrnak, Marchand are salivating at the prospect. |
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Post by franko on Apr 16, 2018 14:07:22 GMT -5
Anyone else surprised the Kings are down 3-0 to start. I wasn't expecting that. well, as I had the Kings winning in 6 (or 7 or losing outright ) I wasn't expecting it either. Fleury is surprising me. |
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 19:19:00 GMT -5
Bruins tie it up after refs choose to ignore Kuraly pulling Moore away from getting the puck. Leafs respond immediately. 2-1
Had to chuckle as Pleks gets a great chance in the slot and hits Rask dead centre in the chest. Glad the kids won’t see that anymore. What a role model.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 16, 2018 19:28:53 GMT -5
I wasn’t sold on Andersen and he’s proving to be a liability for the Leafs. Two bad goals tonight. Amazing how bad a coac Babcock is when the goaltending is weak.
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