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Post by GNick99 on Jun 19, 2019 4:40:43 GMT -5
Here's an overaged-junior with decent size and numbers ... I wonder if Ronnie Attard might be an option if he's still around by the 3rd round or so ... McKeen's has him at #64, NHL Central Scouting (NA Skaters) has him at #76, and Elite Prospects has him a #92 ... Cheers. Who do you like projected to go in 2nd round? I like Grewe, Stouba and Afanasyev. Although, Afanasyev may go late first. Maybe trade down and get him in 20s and acquire an extra 2nd? Something to think about? Robertson may slide into 2nd round. But I don't get a good vide about him. He has all the skill but hasn't put it together yet. Johnson looks like solid 2nd rounder but he may have benefitted from his father's training. If we keep our pick like to get a Broberg or Harley in first round. An offensive LD, who can benefit greatly at camp once they get to know Weber. I think there is a lot of potential in this draft. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 19, 2019 6:06:12 GMT -5
Here's an overaged-junior with decent size and numbers ... I wonder if Ronnie Attard might be an option if he's still around by the 3rd round or so ... McKeen's has him at #64, NHL Central Scouting (NA Skaters) has him at #76, and Elite Prospects has him a #92 ... Cheers. Who do you like projected to go in 2nd round? I like Grewe, Stouba and Afanasyev. Although, Afanasyev may go late first. Maybe trade down and get him in 20s and acquire an extra 2nd? Something to think about? Robertson may slide into 2nd round. But I don't get a good vide about him. He has all the skill but hasn't put it together yet. Johnson looks like solid 2nd rounder but he may have benefitted from his father's training. If we keep our pick like to get a Broberg or Harley in first round. An offensive LD, who can benefit greatly at camp once they get to know Weber. I think there is a lot of potential in this draft. It's a big dart board for me, GNick ... I've been taking an interest in the past few drafts but I still rely on the opinions I read here and elsewhere ... I guess one player who comes to mind might be Samuel Bolduc ... if he's still around in the late 2nd round I'd like to see the club take a chance on him ... I've never seen him play, but I've been reading a lot of good reviews on him ... not sure Philip Broberg will be around by #15, but if he is I don't think the club will pass on him ... Cheers. |
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Post by The Habitual Fan on Jun 19, 2019 6:25:22 GMT -5
Button had us picking Harley in the TSN draft which can't be good.
Funny on the Bob McKenzie draft ranking show they had Button go over Bob's pick right after and he said Bob was wrong a lot. If I was McKenzie I would have given my 2 week notice right then and there.
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Post by Cranky on Jun 20, 2019 7:11:39 GMT -5
Interesting draft.
There is a French Canadian kid....the brother of one of our players...a slew of much needed defenseman all bunched up at around 15.
This will be interesting.
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Post by Anardil1 on Jun 20, 2019 8:32:57 GMT -5
If you believe the buzz from the pundits, the French Canadian, and the Habs prospect's brother are not being considered @15.
I do agree with you that it will be very interesting.
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 20, 2019 9:14:24 GMT -5
No inside info, but it wouldn't surprise me if they go "off the board" and take a forward. If the goalie Knight goes before us, and if one or two of those defensemen also get picked, then that will mean that one of those forwards has fallen. So it wouldn't surprise me if we took one of them, despite the plethora of mocks insisting that we're going to take a left-shooting defenseman.
I also think that if one of Lavoie, Suzuki, or Poulin fall to the end of the first, or even ~gasp!~ the beginning of the second, Timmins will use his extra picks to try and move up to get them.
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Post by folatre on Jun 20, 2019 9:53:51 GMT -5
If Knight and Broberg go in the top 14, then it seems as though Montreal would have at least one offensively gifted forward (Podkolzin, Newhook, or Kaliyev) to weigh against the value in taking a d-man like Harley.
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 20, 2019 10:37:20 GMT -5
Fearless predictions for the weekend:
* Gary Bettman will get booed. Well, I guess this one isn't too fearless.
* Ryan Murray will be a Hab by the end of the weekend. My guess? A 2nd, a 5th, Lehkonen, and Ouellet for Murray and an AHL lifer. Sonny Milano maybe.
* Karl Alzner gets traded. Yeah, I said it. I think Bergevin finds a way to get rid of Alzner. My guess is either to Calgary in a package for James Neal, or to Anaheim with Hudon, a pick, and maybe somebody else.
* Charlie Lindgren will also get traded. This will cause mass hysteria and wild speculation. The return will not be great.
* While taking Spencer Knight would be fun, I think he’s going to Florida. A pick that will be announced by Roberto Luongo, to thunderous applause from the Vancouver crowd. Luongo will have already announced his retirement earlier in the day.
* We take Peyton Krebs, C. Everyone expects us to take a left-shooting defenseman, but that’s too easy. Krebs will be an outstanding pick for us.
Krebs tore his Achilles just recently, and that’s going to throw some teams off. He’s currently ranked 10th on TSN’s draft list, which means that five players that were ranked after him, have to go before him. Given the injury, and how tightly ranked all the prospects are in that range, I think he’ll “fall”. He skates well, played a ton for a bad team, and has that Bergevin-favorite "great character" tag slapped on him. Not a pure goal scorer, but more of a playmaker, which also seems to be a hallmark of recent picks by Timmins.
Timmins will say that they had Krebs ranked in their top 5 and were shocked that he was still available at 15. That they even considered moving up to get him, but nobody wanted to move down. Shocked, he will say, shocked.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 20, 2019 14:21:09 GMT -5
Fearless predictions for the weekend: * Gary Bettman will get booed. Well, I guess this one isn't too fearless. I think a lot of NHL fans think this to be a moral imperative ... Like it ... still, want to hear if Cam Fowler might be available ... Ryan Murray would be just fine, mind you, and cheaper by the sounds of it ... He's a bit of a reclamation project, but James Neal would definitely be welcome ... speaking of reclamation projects, Chris Johnston suggested that Vegas needs to free up cap space and that one of either Paul Statsny or Max Pacioretty might be available ... Which teams need goaltending ... I'm thinking Carolina ... they're having problems re-signing Petr Mrazek and Curtis McElhinney, who look like they'll be available come July 1st ... I haven't seen the organization swing for the fences in recent years, so that's good ... from what I've read, Trevor Timmins seems pretty happy with the players that should be available come to the 15th pick ... my 'sleeper' pick for the 1st round might be Dustin Penner Raphael Lavoie ... that said, I'm really hoping TT isn't influenced by the home crowd, but he took Louis Leblanc the last time the draft was in Montreal ... honourable mention, Alex Newhook ... mind you, BC ... "Well, we had ( Morgan Reilly) first on our list" ... - Brian Burke, 2012 ... it was lip service at the time, but the pick has worked out for the Leafs ... but at the same time, I remember reading that the Leafs table deflated a bit when the Habs took Alex Galchenyuk at #3 ... Cheers. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 20, 2019 14:46:59 GMT -5
I'm going with the Buttman booed and a second rate lefty D.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 20, 2019 14:55:26 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 20, 2019 15:02:07 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Jun 20, 2019 15:05:18 GMT -5
I like to add a D also. Prefferbly one that only costs money and not futures or roster.
Gardiner for 7x8 is fine by me.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 20, 2019 15:44:52 GMT -5
Notes from Marc Bergevin's pre-draft availability ... highlights ... Marc Bergevin says he will look at the free agent market but contracts signed by Kevin Hayes and Jeff Skinner have him second guessing that route ... Cheers. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 20, 2019 20:00:47 GMT -5
Fearless predictions for the weekend: * Gary Bettman will get booed. Well, I guess this one isn't too fearless. The only question is how loudly and for how long. Fearless predictions for the weekend: * Ryan Murray will be a Hab by the end of the weekend. My guess? A 2nd, a 5th, Lehkonen, and Ouellet for Murray and an AHL lifer. Sonny Milano maybe. Could be. Murray sure has been injured a lot and I'd hate to give up Lehkonen who I think will break out this season. I thought he'd break out last season, but I'm not wavering. * Karl Alzner gets traded. Yeah, I said it. I think Bergevin finds a way to get rid of Alzner. My guess is either to Calgary in a package for James Neal, or to Anaheim with Hudon, a pick, and maybe somebody else. If so it will be one bad contract for another and whether that moves us ahead or not will be debated. I'd rather have James Neal, a real NHL player, but almost $6MM for another 4 years? Maybe pick a different example. Not Lucic either Loui Erickson? * Charlie Lindgren will also get traded. This will cause mass hysteria and wild speculation. The return will not be great. I think Lindgren's trade will cause mass ennui.
* While taking Spencer Knight would be fun, I think he’s going to Florida. Thank God. The last thing we need is another excellent goalie prospect. * We take Peyton Krebs, C. Everyone expects us to take a left-shooting defenseman, but that’s too easy. Krebs will be an outstanding pick for us. Are you stalking me? I suggested this the day it was announced he'd ruptured his achilles tendon. |
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Post by PTH on Jun 20, 2019 23:03:58 GMT -5
Fearless predictions for the weekend: * Gary Bettman will get booed. Well, I guess this one isn't too fearless. * Ryan Murray will be a Hab by the end of the weekend. My guess? A 2nd, a 5th, Lehkonen, and Ouellet for Murray and an AHL lifer. Sonny Milano maybe. Not the craziest idea, though I really like Lehkonen. And I think we could add someone cheaply thanks to our spare cap room, though it has to be for the short term only, so as to not block Domi's next contract. We can only hope. Early in his tenure Berg managed to move a lot of troublesome contracts for useful returns - guys like Prust, Bourque, Ryder and Moen, so you never know with Alzner. Maybe we retain a bit and get a shorter bad contract in return ? Again, we can only hope. I just don't want him bought out, since the cap impact is for longer, might as well wait until we need the cap room to buy him out. I'm skeptical. Lindgren seems to be plan B for backup goalie, based on today's chitchat with the press. I actually wonder if we might not get Luongo to be our backup for just one season. I'd be all for picking Knight if he's still available, if our scouts see him as the BPA. Needs change, Primeau could flake out the way Lindgren seems to be doing, we just have to go for BPA. The only reason not to pick Knight is if he'd need AHL icetime at the same time as Primeau, even then, I would only use that as a tiebreaker if some other prospect were neck and neck with Knight. BTW: guys, if we pick Knight, please don't go batSaperlipopette crazy like when Price was selected... At todays's presser it was pretty clear that Berg and Timmins haven't settled on a position, much less a player. They did their homework on 20 players... and if D goes early (or if our guys just aren't sold on the D rated around our pick), we might well be picking a forward (or a goalie) They said just about all that about Lantendresse, though they did move up to get him. They also moved up to get Lernout, though, so really, moving up doesn't seem to work out that great for us these days. I'd add that at that presser, Timmins mentioned that there were good players until about #40, which makes me think at some point in the 35-40 range, if some team with few picks has lost the guys it really wanted, maybe we swap 46 and 50 for a very early 2nd rounder, assuming our scouts still have a high-potential guy unselected. |
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 21, 2019 6:36:36 GMT -5
* Karl Alzner gets traded. Yeah, I said it. I think Bergevin finds a way to get rid of Alzner. My guess is either to Calgary in a package for James Neal, or to Anaheim with Hudon, a pick, and maybe somebody else. If so it will be one bad contract for another and whether that moves us ahead or not will be debated. I'd rather have James Neal, a real NHL player, but almost $6MM for another 4 years? Maybe pick a different example. Not Lucic either Loui Erickson? For sure it will have to be a bad contract coming back. And we'd probably still have to retain, even at that. I also thought of Kyle Turris. The Predators would like to get rid of some salary, and unless they find somebody to take Turris straight up, they too might have to take a bad contract back. You'd have to work out the numbers, how much to retain, when would be the optimal buy-out time, etc, but a deal might be had there. The Preds could save $2-3 million in cap space under such a deal, so it might be a possibility. * We take Peyton Krebs, C. Everyone expects us to take a left-shooting defenseman, but that’s too easy. Krebs will be an outstanding pick for us. Are you stalking me? I suggested this the day it was announced he'd ruptured his achilles tendon. Only cyberly! |
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 21, 2019 9:17:45 GMT -5
I'd be all for picking Knight if he's still available, if our scouts see him as the BPA. Needs change, Primeau could flake out the way Lindgren seems to be doing, we just have to go for BPA. The only reason not to pick Knight is if he'd need AHL icetime at the same time as Primeau, even then, I would only use that as a tiebreaker if some other prospect were neck and neck with Knight. Knight is heading to the NCAA next year, so if he spends two years there it would dove-tail rather nicely with Primeau's expected career path. Full-time AHL starter this year, backup to Price next year (both years Knight is in college). Then Knight goes to the AHL for one year (maybe half a year), and moves to the NHL after that, when he is 21 or so. It could work. BTW: guys, if we pick Knight, please don't go batSaperlipopette crazy like when Price was selected...  They said just about all that about Lantendresse, though they did move up to get him. They also moved up to get Lernout, though, so really, moving up doesn't seem to work out that great for us these days. If there is a Latendresse comparison, for me it would be Raphael Lavoie. Similar style of player - big guy, but not physical, scorer, questionable intensity, etc.. Lavoie seems to be a candidate to fall - as Latendresse did - and if he is still available in the 2nd - as Latendresse was - I could see them moving up to try and get him - as they did with Latendresse. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 21, 2019 13:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 21, 2019 15:45:20 GMT -5
Well played, Blues, well played.
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Post by folatre on Jun 21, 2019 17:31:34 GMT -5
Wow man, that is smooth.
The night the Blues won the Cup, an old university mate of mine who has loved the Sabres since he was six years old described the life of a Buffalo fan as surreal and full of self-loathing.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 21, 2019 19:01:47 GMT -5
Bettman, boos, and Jersey on the clock next.
Get ‘er done.
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Post by folatre on Jun 21, 2019 19:06:52 GMT -5
Just enough time to grab the first of a couple of cold pops from the fridge.
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Draft '19
Jun 21, 2019 19:07:03 GMT -5
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Post by PTH on Jun 21, 2019 19:07:03 GMT -5
Berg not expecting to move ahead in the draft, and seems to think it's unlikely he'll be able to pull off an Armia/Mason type deal, though discussions have been ongoing. The uncertainty around the cap isn't helping.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 21, 2019 19:11:32 GMT -5
Berg not expecting to move ahead in the draft, and seems to think it's unlikely he'll be able to pull off an Armia/Mason type deal, though discussions have been ongoing. The uncertainty around the cap isn't helping. #safeisdeath #tradesarehard #expecttheunexpected Berg seems to be setting us up for more of the same. He doesn’t play all his cards with the media though. |
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Draft '19
Jun 21, 2019 19:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 21, 2019 19:12:13 GMT -5
It has to be tiring for Bettman to be booed all the time by fans and for quite long periods. After a while it’s no longer a joke. I hope it keeps up. It’s our only way of getting back at that guy.
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Draft '19
Jun 21, 2019 19:14:47 GMT -5
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Post by PTH on Jun 21, 2019 19:14:47 GMT -5
Berg not expecting to move ahead in the draft, and seems to think it's unlikely he'll be able to pull off an Armia/Mason type deal, though discussions have been ongoing. The uncertainty around the cap isn't helping. #safeisdeath #tradesarehard #expecttheunexpected Berg seems to be setting us up for more of the same. He doesn’t play all his cards with the media though. As Gainey used to say, why would he tell his rivals what he's up to? |
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Draft '19
Jun 21, 2019 19:15:02 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 21, 2019 19:15:02 GMT -5
Berg not expecting to move ahead in the draft, and seems to think it's unlikely he'll be able to pull off an Armia/Mason type deal, though discussions have been ongoing. The uncertainty around the cap isn't helping. Uncertainty around the CAP? $1mM maybe? How much of an obstacle can that be? Not to mention they can be over till the season starts anyway. |
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Draft '19
Jun 21, 2019 19:23:03 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 21, 2019 19:23:03 GMT -5
The NHL is so crappy at these things. Guys spend time thanking everyone and their dog before a selection. Check out the NBA. The Commish ( who isn't booed) comes out and says “ the Toledo Mud Hens select....,” and it’s done. Five seconds max. Then a few minutes later another pick and so on. There’s time for commentators to interview, time to dissect the pick and then onto the next.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jun 21, 2019 19:23:20 GMT -5
Devils dragged that out. Good grief.
Next up Kappo.
Byram (yes I am going there).
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