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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 19:06:20 GMT -5
Tampa's coming on. Not shy or scared anymore.
Funny how, even though they were the league's best team, they are incredibly fragile.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 19:24:28 GMT -5
Columbus wants this way, WAY more...
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2019 20:39:02 GMT -5
Q. What does Montreal have in common with Tampa Bay?
A. Zero playoff wins in 2019.
Congrats to the Jackets for the sweep....but the Bolts have to be utterly embarrassed.
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Post by franko on Apr 16, 2019 20:42:22 GMT -5
Congrats to the Jackets for the sweep. The Lightning should be embarrassed. Because everyone predicted CBJ would sweep and laid out tons of cash on the line.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 20:42:43 GMT -5
Not sure the Habs would have done what Columbus just did. What a story. And what a disaster in Tampa.
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Post by Cranky on Apr 16, 2019 20:48:28 GMT -5
When was the last time a "sure winner" collapsed like this? Some stupid Tampa fans were comparing them to the late 70's Habs. Not fit to wash their jockstraps.....
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2019 20:50:19 GMT -5
Bye bye Cooper and company. Enjoy the summer of wondering...
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2019 20:57:02 GMT -5
Bye bye Cooper and company. Enjoy the summer of wondering... I'm pissed, went to watch the last minute so I could see Mr. Smugs face and the stream goes screwy.
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Post by jkr on Apr 16, 2019 20:57:09 GMT -5
I was watching the Isles game on Sportsnet main network. I turned it off for a bit & when I come back, they are airing the Jets game. Did they actually bail on the Isles game before it was over?
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2019 20:59:06 GMT -5
Hedman was not "right" in Games 1 and 2, so he basically missed the entire series.
His "absence" appeared to have disrupted their entire identity/chemistry. What a bonus for Columbus to have the Bolts' Norris winner/candidate MIA.
Still...totally unacceptable performance from Tampa.
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Post by jkr on Apr 16, 2019 21:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2019 21:08:22 GMT -5
EN. Bye bye Sid.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2019 21:08:58 GMT -5
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Post by CentreHice on Apr 16, 2019 21:09:08 GMT -5
Bye, Penguins.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2019 21:10:09 GMT -5
Congrats to Trotz... happy to see Recchi lose
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Apr 16, 2019 21:13:04 GMT -5
Congrats to Trotz... happy to see Recchi lose Yeah, Trotz just seems to win.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 16, 2019 21:16:24 GMT -5
Wow... CBJ scored 3 EN goals
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 21:17:53 GMT -5
Hedman was not "right" in Games 1 and 2, so he basically missed the entire series. His "absence" appeared to have disrupted their entire identity/chemistry. What a bonus for Columbus to have the Bolts' Norris winner/candidate MIA. Still...totally unacceptable performance from Tampa. Nothing about Tampa seemed right. They thought it would be smooth sailing after one period in Game 1. Columbus took it to 'em ever since.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 17, 2019 0:13:05 GMT -5
With Habs, Pacioretty had 19 points in 38 playoff games. With VGK he has 10 points in 4 games. Gallant effect?
We know he’s streaky but this is 🔥 , even for him.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 17, 2019 5:44:08 GMT -5
With Habs, Pacioretty had 19 points in 38 playoff games. With VGK he has 10 points in 4 games. Gallant effect? We know he’s streaky but this is 🔥 , even for him. Its the Stone effect it's how good Stone is.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 17, 2019 7:52:52 GMT -5
Those helmets might indeed by insufficient, but they can't really be designed to prevent concussions, more like skull fractures. The brain bounces around in the skull whether or not you're wearing a helmet. It does bounce around, yes ... had a young soldier fall and hit the back of his head on the ice during a broomball game ... it wasn't the point of impact they were worried about, it was the bruising to the front of his brain when it shifted and hit the front of his cranium and from what I remember he wasn't right for months ... Cheers.
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Post by blny on Apr 17, 2019 10:18:16 GMT -5
I was watching the Isles game on Sportsnet main network. I turned it off for a bit & when I come back, they are airing the Jets game. Did they actually bail on the Isles game before it was over? Out here on the East coast, CBC was carrying the Pens-Isles series. SN would go to it fir intermission coverage. Not sure if City, or SN1, were showing it but the SN E through W was the CBJ series.
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Post by blny on Apr 17, 2019 10:19:34 GMT -5
With Habs, Pacioretty had 19 points in 38 playoff games. With VGK he has 10 points in 4 games. Gallant effect? We know he’s streaky but this is 🔥 , even for him. Its the Stone effect it's how good Stone is. I've seen enough of the series to know that all three on that line are playing very well right now. Max has scored a couple of is patented off wing goals. Stastny has been doing a little bit of everything.
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Post by blny on Apr 17, 2019 10:21:06 GMT -5
Eberle may be the biggest story no one is talking about. Four goals and 6 points puts him just behind VGK's top line that leads the league.
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Post by Andrew on Apr 17, 2019 11:42:27 GMT -5
CBJ have struggled with consistency, but when they're on they're a very good team IMO. Their forecheck can dominate, with big and fast players that wear down the opposing D and force turnovers etc. No shortage of skill up front, vesina goalie and norris caliber #1 defenseman.
On the flip side, Tampa's D is a little thin after Hedman and couldn't handle the Columbus forecheck. McDonnagh is solid but not elite. Sergachev is promising but is prone to making young player mistakes.
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Post by blny on Apr 17, 2019 12:33:10 GMT -5
CBJ have struggled with consistency, but when they're on they're a very good team IMO. Their forecheck can dominate, with big and fast players that wear down the opposing D and force turnovers etc. No shortage of skill up front, vesina goalie and norris caliber #1 defenseman. On the flip side, Tampa's D is a little thin after Hedman and couldn't handle the Columbus forecheck. McDonnagh is solid but not elite. Sergachev is promising but is prone to making young player mistakes. They played last night without Hedman and Stralman. Coburn drew in for game 3 and 4. I thought he played quite well. Certainly tried to make a difference at both ends. Was visible amongst a group that was largely invisible.
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Post by jkr on Apr 17, 2019 13:02:50 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Apr 17, 2019 13:34:47 GMT -5
The lightning fizzle deserves to be ridiculed.
Imagine this place if our Habs got owned on a historic level? The curse filter would get destroyed....
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Post by BadCompany on Apr 17, 2019 13:41:19 GMT -5
And they’re not exactly in a great cap situation either. They’ve got about $10 million to sign seven players, one of whom is Brayden Point, he of the 92 point season. And for all the accolades Julien Brisebois has been getting for helping to build such a power-house they sure have a lot of mediocre-to-bad contracts.
If you thought Jonathon Drouin’s contract was bad, check out these:
* Ryan Callahan: $5.8 million, 17 points. Highest point total as a Bolt – 54.
* Ondrej Palat: $5.3 million, 34 points. Highest point total as a Bolt – 63.
* JT Miller: $5.25 million, 47 points. Highest point total in his career – 56.
* Tyler Johnson: $5 million, 47 points.
* Alex Killhorn: $4.45 million, 40 points. Highest point total as a Bolt – 47.
* Yanni Gourde: next year his cap hit jumps to $5.166 million – 48 points.
* Seven players have NTC or NMC (Stamkos, Callahan, Palat, Johnson, Kilhorn, Hedman, McDonagh)
* That number was actually higher, but 3 other players who had NTC or NMC are now UFAs (Stralman, Coburn, Girardi). So they originally had ten players with no-trade clauses of some sort. For comparison’s sake we had four; Thompson, Price, Petry, Alzner, and one of them wasn’t signed by Bergevin. As an aside, how do Nate Thompson and Alex Killhorn get NTCs??
I get that there is something to be said for having scoring depth throughout the lineup, and clearly the Lightning were a dominant regular season team, but how are they going to move guys to get under the cap? What value do $5million 40 point players have around the league? Are you going to give up a lot for somebody like Kilhorn or Palat? And that’s compounded by the fact that these guys have NTCs, which restrict to who they can be dealt.
Should be an interesting summer in Tampa.
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Post by blny on Apr 17, 2019 13:53:35 GMT -5
And they’re not exactly in a great cap situation either. They’ve got about $10 million to sign seven players, one of whom is Brayden Point, he of the 92 point season. And for all the accolades Julien Brisebois has been getting for helping to build such a power-house they sure have a lot of mediocre-to-bad contracts. If you thought Jonathon Drouin’s contract was bad, check out these: * Ryan Callahan: $5.8 million, 17 points. Highest point total as a Bolt – 54. * Ondrej Palat: $5.3 million, 34 points. Highest point total as a Bolt – 63. * JT Miller: $5.25 million, 47 points. Highest point total in his career – 56. * Tyler Johnson: $5 million, 47 points. * Alex Killhorn: $4.45 million, 40 points. Highest point total as a Bolt – 47. * Yanni Gourde: next year his cap hit jumps to $5.166 million – 48 points. * Seven players have NTC or NMC (Stamkos, Callahan, Palat, Johnson, Kilhorn, Hedman, McDonagh) * That number was actually higher, but 3 other players who had NTC or NMC are now UFAs (Stralman, Coburn, Girardi). So they originally had ten players with no-trade clauses of some sort. For comparison’s sake we had four; Thompson, Price, Petry, Alzner, and one of them wasn’t signed by Bergevin. As an aside, how do Nate Thompson and Alex Killhorn get NTCs?? I get that there is something to be said for having scoring depth throughout the lineup, and clearly the Lightning were a dominant regular season team, but how are they going to move guys to get under the cap? What value do $5million 40 point players have around the league? Are you going to give up a lot for somebody like Kilhorn or Palat? And that’s compounded by the fact that these guys have NTCs, which restrict to who they can be dealt. Should be an interesting summer in Tampa. A really good summary of something that comes to mind every once in a while. They've committed a lot of cash to middle six players. A couple had career years when thrust into upper opportunities, but they're middle six players. Callahan comes off the books in year. It will be interesting to see if they can pawn him off this summer.
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