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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 14, 2020 8:32:48 GMT -5
Here is another video of the Marchand flub (why the heck not?), with a great caption.
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Post by blny on Jan 14, 2020 9:32:00 GMT -5
Gritty is the best!
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 14, 2020 9:38:57 GMT -5
Can overskating the puck on a penalty shot now be considered "pulling a Marchand?"
Cheers.
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Post by Polarice on Jan 14, 2020 9:52:09 GMT -5
Here is another video of the Marchand flub (why the heck not?), with a great caption. I think it shouldn't matter if you whiff on the puck until you/or the puck crosses the blue line. |
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Post by blny on Jan 14, 2020 10:05:51 GMT -5
Here is another video of the Marchand flub (why the heck not?), with a great caption. I think it shouldn't matter if you whiff on the puck until you/or the puck crosses the blue line. Despite this being Marchand, I agree. |
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Post by franko on Jan 14, 2020 10:53:46 GMT -5
I think it shouldn't matter if you whiff on the puck until you/or the puck crosses the blue line. Despite this being Marchand, I agree. the call was that he touched the puck and then went by it/puck did not keep moving forward. letter of the law, I guess. I can see an "until it crosses the blue line" amendment to the rule and then someone getting close the line then having second thoughts and taking the puck back again and starting over, or taking the puck to the blue line, leaving it there, then turning around to work up some speed without the puck and then picking it up and zipping in, or . . . oh, I just come up with the most ridiculous scenarios for no reason. I'm just going to enjoy the hockey play gone bad. |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 14, 2020 12:15:44 GMT -5
Despite this being Marchand, I agree. the call was that he touched the puck and then went by it/puck did not keep moving forward. letter of the law, I guess. I can see an "until it crosses the blue line" amendment to the rule and then someone getting close the line then having second thoughts and taking the puck back again and starting over, or taking the puck to the blue line, leaving it there, then turning around to work up some speed without the puck and then picking it up and zipping in, or . . . oh, I just come up with the most ridiculous scenarios for no reason. I'm just going to enjoy the hockey play gone bad. I remember first hearing about the "puck getting behind the shooter" back in the late 70s ... Jacques Lemaire was awarded a penalty shot and as he skated in the puck decided to 'bounce' a few times ... the puck looked like it ended up on his back foot which was where he decided to shoot from ... he scored on the play but he had to rush the shot before he lost total control of it ... I remember the announcer saying something to the effect that had the puck gotten behind him the goal wouldn't have counted ... I also remember Lars Eller scoring on a spinarama move and that was an illegal move that wasn't called ... here's Rule 24 of the NHL Rule Book ... 24.2 Procedure - The Referee shall ask to have announced over the public address system the name of the player designated by him or selected by the team entitled to take the shot (as appropriate). He shall then place the puck on the center face-off spot and the player taking the shot will, on the instruction of the Referee (by blowing his whistle), play the puck from there and shall attempt to score on the goalkeeper. The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and
once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck off the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal), and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete. The lacrosse-like move whereby the puck is picked up on the blade of the stick and “whipped” into the net shall be permitted provided the puck is not raised above the height of the shoulders at any time and when released, is not carried higher than the crossbar. See also 80.1. The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360°
turn as he approaches the goal, shall not be permitted. Should a player perform such a move during the penalty shot, the shot shall be stopped by the Referee and no goal will be the result. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 14, 2020 17:40:33 GMT -5
Here is another video of the Marchand flub (why the heck not?), with a great caption. Almost as good as watching Fluery lay out Lucy. |
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Post by folatre on Jan 14, 2020 21:33:35 GMT -5
It is beyond comprehension how Montreal has not taken a single point off Detroit or New Jersey this season. Those two teams play with goalies who cannot stop a beach ball.
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Post by franko on Jan 14, 2020 21:36:31 GMT -5
It is beyond comprehension how Montreal has not taken a single point off Detroit or New Jersey this season. Those two teams play with goalies who cannot stop a beach ball. Those lost points are a killer. |
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Post by folatre on Jan 14, 2020 21:51:23 GMT -5
And the worst part is to look at what Toronto does with the cupcakes on the schedule...they eat them (10 of 10 points versus Detroit and NJ).
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Post by jkr on Jan 14, 2020 22:23:35 GMT -5
I think one of those losses to NJ was in overtime but you're absolutely right. Their playoffs may be dashed by being unable to beat the worst teams in the league.
The Leafs did beat NJ tonight but they didn't make it easy on themselves. After building up a 6-1 lead, they gave up 3 straight goals & ended up winning 7-4. They have given up 21 goals in their last 4 games. Their D wasn't very good but without Reilly, oh boy.
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Post by blny on Jan 15, 2020 6:14:34 GMT -5
Bernier stood on his head against Montreal at least once.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 15, 2020 12:15:05 GMT -5
Here is another video of the Marchand flub (why the heck not?), with a great caption. Marchand grew up a puck licker... |
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Post by jkr on Jan 16, 2020 19:46:44 GMT -5
TSN being really annoying tonight. One of their quiz questions is " Can Matthews score 60?"
They totally ignore the fact that Patrnak actually leads the league in goals. Maybe the question should be "Will there be a 60 goal scorer this season?" But hey, this is TSN. Why should I expect impartiality.
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Post by jkr on Jan 16, 2020 21:41:03 GMT -5
Liking Tkachuk tonight. Scores the shot out winner against the Leafs.
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2020 8:38:34 GMT -5
I find TSN has their ebbs and tides. They'll have periods where's like listening to O-Dog on TSN radio and there's nothing outside the Leafs realm. Other times they'll actually be non-partisan. There's still little that compares to HNIT.
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Post by blny on Jan 17, 2020 16:33:31 GMT -5
Boston places Backes on waivers. Another year at $6 million.
Carolina's Hamilton has broken fibula, requires surgery. Likely done for the year.
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Post by franko on Jan 17, 2020 17:03:36 GMT -5
Boston places Backes on waivers. Another year at $6 million. Looks good on Boston. No glee there (right). Send them Scandella. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 18, 2020 11:33:52 GMT -5
Boston places Backes on waivers. Another year at $6 million. Looks good on Boston. No glee there (right). Send them Scandella. Dont worry Franko... i looked into my crystal ball and I see MB signing him to an Alzner type contract because he's a local boy and he reminds MB of himself when he was playing. |
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Post by Skilly on Jan 18, 2020 18:51:39 GMT -5
the call was that he touched the puck and then went by it/puck did not keep moving forward. letter of the law, I guess. I can see an "until it crosses the blue line" amendment to the rule and then someone getting close the line then having second thoughts and taking the puck back again and starting over, or taking the puck to the blue line, leaving it there, then turning around to work up some speed without the puck and then picking it up and zipping in, or . . . oh, I just come up with the most ridiculous scenarios for no reason. I'm just going to enjoy the hockey play gone bad. I remember first hearing about the "puck getting behind the shooter" back in the late 70s ... Jacques Lemaire was awarded a penalty shot and as he skated in the puck decided to 'bounce' a few times ... the puck looked like it ended up on his back foot which was where he decided to shoot from ... he scored on the play but he had to rush the shot before he lost total control of it ... I remember the announcer saying something to the effect that had the puck gotten behind him the goal wouldn't have counted ... I also remember Lars Eller scoring on a spinarama move and that was an illegal move that wasn't called ... here's Rule 24 of the NHL Rule Book ... 24.2 Procedure - The Referee shall ask to have announced over the public address system the name of the player designated by him or selected by the team entitled to take the shot (as appropriate). He shall then place the puck on the center face-off spot and the player taking the shot will, on the instruction of the Referee (by blowing his whistle), play the puck from there and shall attempt to score on the goalkeeper. The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and
once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete. No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck off the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal), and any time the puck crosses the goal line or comes to a complete stop, the shot shall be considered complete. The lacrosse-like move whereby the puck is picked up on the blade of the stick and “whipped” into the net shall be permitted provided the puck is not raised above the height of the shoulders at any time and when released, is not carried higher than the crossbar. See also 80.1. The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360°
turn as he approaches the goal, shall not be permitted. Should a player perform such a move during the penalty shot, the shot shall be stopped by the Referee and no goal will be the result. The spin-o-rama amendment was added to the rule book a few years ago. Everyone was doing it and goalies complained ... I remember it being at a GMs meeting and then implemented right away |
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Post by Skilly on Jan 18, 2020 18:55:52 GMT -5
Ovechkin is on a tear ... 3 more goals today. His second hat trick this week (26th of his career). Passes Mario (10th) and ties Yzerman (9th) on the same day
692 goals and counting
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 19:08:30 GMT -5
Ovechkin is on a tear ... 3 more goals today. His second hat trick this week (26th of his career). Passes Mario (10th) and ties Yzerman (9th) on the same day 692 goals and counting You start to wonder when his production will taper but it ain't happening anytime soon... |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 18, 2020 20:05:09 GMT -5
Could ovi break a 1000? He won't average 50 the next six years but if he pulls a Jagr or a chelios and plays to mid 40's, you never know. I could see him trying for it.
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Post by blny on Jan 18, 2020 23:16:57 GMT -5
Could ovi break a 1000? He won't average 50 the next six years but if he pulls a Jagr or a chelios and plays to mid 40's, you never know. I could see him trying for it. He's on record saying that if he breaks Gretz's record he'll retire on the spot. Might just be him cracking jokes. I fully expect him to play as long as it takes. He's 202 behind. He's got 34 in 49. Not really showing much sign of slowing down. He'll be 35 in September. Barring significant injury. He'll likely break it by the time he's 40. Even if he somehow didn't, you have to think he's arguably the greatest goal scorer of all time. He played the first 7 years in what I consider part of the dead puck era. With playing through trap hockey, two work stoppages, and the systems hockey we have today, the great 8 may become the great 'one'. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 19, 2020 2:00:39 GMT -5
Leafs defence is still brutal. And now with Cherry gone, does anyone still think Andersen is the best in the world? Ha!!
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Post by folatre on Jan 19, 2020 9:18:57 GMT -5
Jeje, Andersen is certainly in a funk. He does face quite a few high quality chances most games, but the .909 save percentage is not good enough for a team constructed the way the Leafs. I suppose the same could be said for Price (.908).
Interestingly, Price and Andersen are first and second, respectively, in both starts and minutes played. I get it that one cannot definitively say that the cause of their issues is being overworked, but for me it sure seems like there could be a correlation as goalies move into and through their 30s.
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Post by jkr on Jan 19, 2020 9:22:01 GMT -5
Anyone see Kubalik's goal last night. Toews gave him a pass that was about a foot or two off the ice & he swatted it in like a tennis volley. He's got 20 goals to lead all rookies & has to be a contender for the Calder.
Hawks got him from the Kings a year ago for a 5th.
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Post by blny on Jan 19, 2020 10:08:06 GMT -5
Anyone see Kubalik's goal last night. Toews gave him a pass that was about a foot or two off the ice & he swatted it in like a tennis volley. He's got 20 goals to lead all rookies & has to be a contender for the Calder. Hawks got him from the Kings a year ago for a 5th. Both his goals last night were impressive. www.nhl.com/video/toews-sets-up-kubalik/t-312069766/c-5131945www.nhl.com/video/kubalik-bats-home-incredible-goal/t-312069766/c-5132059He's 24 and had played pro hockey for 6 years before coming over, putting up quality ppg numbers during that time. That certainly helps him compared to other rookies. Drafted in 2013, in the 7th round, I don't know what happened with the Kings. He never appears to have signed with them, so I'm not sure why he didn't go back in the draft or how the Kings retained his rights so long. He's playing on a one year ELC. |
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Post by jkr on Jan 19, 2020 15:01:54 GMT -5
There was a discussion in another thread about blown leads & comebacks.
The Bruins opened up a 3-0 1st period lead in Pittsburgh this afternoon.
With less than 6 minutes to go in the 3rd, it's now 4-3 Pens. Will see how this one ends.
Pens win 4-3 in regulation.
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