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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 19, 2023 14:08:33 GMT -5
Anyone else sometimes wonder where we'd be if the hockeysfuture-suggested transaction of Gallagher for Nugent-Hopkins had been made a few years ago ? (say in 2018 when we were horribly thin at C)... While he said he didn't want to outright trade Brendan Gallagher, BC generated a lot of discussion on the merits of moving Gallagher, a few years back ... had to use the search engine, but I was able to find a thread where BC was talking about him ... he, actually, started talking about trading him well before this post ... Skilly, you might remember this one, as well, mate ... Cheers. At the trade deadline last season, when everybody was all hot and bothered to trade Petry and Tatar, I kept asking "why not Gallagher?"
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Post by seventeen on Jan 19, 2023 15:53:01 GMT -5
I recall that and I was against it. Too loyal, whereas BC (and Cranky) are cutthroats. Was that kind of trade really in the works? Did we pass up on it or did Edmonton or did it never get serious? Only Berg's hairdresser knows for sure.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 20, 2023 20:48:04 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jan 21, 2023 10:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jan 21, 2023 10:54:15 GMT -5
When was Caufield even hurt badly enough to need surgery?
He was about the only reason to watch lately.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 21, 2023 11:15:39 GMT -5
Damm that hurts. Now their is no doubt the course of action is to bottom out this year.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2023 11:28:33 GMT -5
Damm that hurts. Now their is no doubt the course of action is to bottom out this year. I expect Suze to be next on the injury list This should get everyone on the Tank Nation bandwagon
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 21, 2023 11:39:29 GMT -5
Guhle, Slafkovsky and now Caufield. What a disaster.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jan 21, 2023 11:46:46 GMT -5
Guhle, Slafkovsky and now Caufield. What a disaster. Remember when people were saying we had too many forwards at the beginning of the year? Out: Slafkovsky Caulfield Monahan Gallagher Drouin Armia Byron Evans That's almost 3 lines worth.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2023 12:40:41 GMT -5
We are tied with Philly with 310 man games lost
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Post by folatre on Jan 21, 2023 13:09:49 GMT -5
The injuries are out of control. I feel for the ticket buying public, planning to take your kids to see young stars like Caufield and Guhle and now you get treated to Belzile and Wideman.
I hope Caufield makes a full recovery by summer.
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Post by drkcloud on Jan 21, 2023 13:21:20 GMT -5
The good news is we might not win another game this season. The bad news is that it may be completely unwatchable. I wonder if I can get a half season refund on my Center Ice package
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Post by PTH on Jan 21, 2023 13:22:10 GMT -5
What I find frustrating is that guys like Caufield, Slafkovsky and Guhle need that ice time to develop in what is now a low-stress situation. I mean, if Guhle is going to try a risky pass and develop confidence in his offense... this is the time to do it, when a loss won't change much of anything.
At least guys like RHP and Ylonen will get a real chance. I just hope we don't get any high expectations if they do well, I've found Pezzetta to be quite disappointing this season despite doing well last year in low-pressure situations.
If Allen stays hurt, it means we should be able to give Primeau some games and try and see if there's anything there.
Who are we playing who is clearly developing ? Dach and the remaining young D, I guess.
The deadline will be interesting to follow, since Hughes will still have to figure out how to ice a full lineup with all the injuries. I wonder what cap implications come with all these injuries... can we be a go-between to retain 50% on someone else's deal to get another pick ?
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 21, 2023 14:03:14 GMT -5
It's now 2 pm est and neither TSN nor Sportsnet have anything indicating Cole is injured. Either the injury is some sort of prank or TSN and Sportsnet are a complete joke. Likely the latter as If the this was Mitch Marner, it would be the lead story with all sorts of stories on how the Leafs could still win the Cup. Current lead headline on Sportsnet is Bunting talking about his favourite music and another story about Simmonds getting into the lineup. NOTHING about Cole.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 21, 2023 14:10:17 GMT -5
He’s been playing through the injury for a while so it seems.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 21, 2023 14:30:34 GMT -5
Guhle, Slafkovsky and now Caufield. What a disaster. It must be awfully rare for a team to have three of it's youngest stars with a ton of potential, all get injured in a relatively short time period.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 21, 2023 14:32:29 GMT -5
Guhle, Slafkovsky and now Caufield. What a disaster. Remember when people were saying we had too many forwards at the beginning of the year? Out: Slafkovsky Caulfield Monahan Gallagher Drouin Armia Byron Evans That's almost 3 lines worth. Ouch, literally. That's too similar to the Vigneault years. (I see we're not counting Price, and that makes sense because he's not coming back).
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 21, 2023 14:38:26 GMT -5
Guhle, Slafkovsky and now Caufield. What a disaster. It must be awfully rare for a team to have three of it's youngest stars with a ton of potential, all get injured in a relatively short time period. Yup. That's 3 of our 4 top draft picks the past 4 years. Only Mailloux is not in there and he's had some injury, and suspension, problems himself. Does the curse continue?
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Post by jkr on Jan 21, 2023 16:46:10 GMT -5
It's now 2 pm est and neither TSN nor Sportsnet have anything indicating Cole is injured. Either the injury is some sort of prank or TSN and Sportsnet are a complete joke. Likely the latter as If the this was Mitch Marner, it would be the lead story with all sorts of stories on how the Leafs could still win the Cup. Current lead headline on Sportsnet is Bunting talking about his favourite music and another story about Simmonds getting into the lineup. NOTHING about Cole. What kind of delusional moron runs these sites? Only the most diehard leaf fan would give a sh!t what a goof like Bunting listens to. And if a has been like Simmonds is in the lineup then Keefe must think he has little to worry about.
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Post by jkr on Jan 21, 2023 19:12:06 GMT -5
I was browsing HF boards, There was a tweet from Engels. Sounds like Caufield was playing hurt for some time. Didnt stop him from being so productive.
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Post by Skilly on Jan 21, 2023 20:57:17 GMT -5
We are tied with Philly with 310 man games lost How do the Leafs and Capitals have more games lost?
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Post by drkcloud on Jan 21, 2023 20:58:09 GMT -5
Is Mysak so far off the radar that he doesn't get a look in these circumstances? Another second round whiff?
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 21, 2023 21:38:48 GMT -5
We are tied with Philly with 310 man games lost How do the Leafs and Capitals have more games lost? Leafs have had a lot of D injured for a while... I don't know if guys on ltir count... Carey and Byron add up to 80 games
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 22, 2023 11:40:17 GMT -5
Is Mysak so far off the radar that he doesn't get a look in these circumstances? Another second round whiff? Been injured for a while. Still weeks away from a return.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 22, 2023 11:44:22 GMT -5
I was browsing HF boards, There was a tweet from Engels. Sounds like Caufield was playing hurt for some time. Didnt stop him from being so productive. It sure does make one wonder about the advice that the Habs medical staff are providing. The last few years have been full of serious injuries, including far too many guys playing through what ended up being career ending ailments. Should Caufield have been shutdown earlier to avoid more serious injury? Marty did say that he was one bad fall on that shoulder away from having a more serious issue. It is best not to gamble too much with the long term health of your youngest and most promising goal scorer.
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Post by habsorbed on Jan 22, 2023 12:11:06 GMT -5
It's now 2 pm est and neither TSN nor Sportsnet have anything indicating Cole is injured. Either the injury is some sort of prank or TSN and Sportsnet are a complete joke. Likely the latter as If the this was Mitch Marner, it would be the lead story with all sorts of stories on how the Leafs could still win the Cup. Current lead headline on Sportsnet is Bunting talking about his favourite music and another story about Simmonds getting into the lineup. NOTHING about Cole. What kind of delusional moron runs these sites? Only the most diehard leaf fan would give a sh!t what a goof like Bunting listens to. And if a has been like Simmonds is in the lineup then Keefe must think he has little to worry about. Had to laugh when Sportsnet started Leafs Habs game the first thing they say is "In case you missed it, Cole Caufield is out for the season". I was like I did miss it but I do have Bunting's entire playlist.
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Post by seventeen on Jan 22, 2023 18:59:39 GMT -5
I was browsing HF boards, There was a tweet from Engels. Sounds like Caufield was playing hurt for some time. Didnt stop him from being so productive. It sure does make one wonder about the advice that the Habs medical staff are providing. The last few years have been full of serious injuries, including far too many guys playing through what ended up being career ending ailments. Should Caufield have been shutdown earlier to avoid more serious injury? Marty did say that he was one bad fall on that shoulder away from having a more serious issue. It is best not to gamble too much with the long term health of your youngest and most promising goal scorer. Hughes was just quoted saying Habs management needs to do a better job of protecting the players from themselves. That puzzled me, wondering what are the players doing that's causing these injuries? It was explained that the point was more about the players saying they're healthy in order to return before they're truly ready to do so. Maybe they lie to the medical staff (my thought). That was the case with Weber and probably Price and those leaders set the standard for everyone and they're all ready to 'play through it' instead of letting an injury heal properly. Pacioretty was an example...Wolverine because he healed so quickly. Did he? Was his achilles injury fully healed before he came back for the Canes? It's that old school attitude that you can't let your teammates down. Maybe for a 7th game you do that. Mid season, no.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jan 22, 2023 20:09:44 GMT -5
It sure does make one wonder about the advice that the Habs medical staff are providing. The last few years have been full of serious injuries, including far too many guys playing through what ended up being career ending ailments. Should Caufield have been shutdown earlier to avoid more serious injury? Marty did say that he was one bad fall on that shoulder away from having a more serious issue. It is best not to gamble too much with the long term health of your youngest and most promising goal scorer. Hughes was just quoted saying Habs management needs to do a better job of protecting the players from themselves. That puzzled me, wondering what are the players doing that's causing these injuries? It was explained that the point was more about the players saying they're healthy in order to return before they're truly ready to do so. Maybe they lie to the medical staff (my thought). That was the case with Weber and probably Price and those leaders set the standard for everyone and they're all ready to 'play through it' instead of letting an injury heal properly. Pacioretty was an example...Wolverine because he healed so quickly. Did he? Was his achilles injury fully healed before he came back for the Canes? It's that old school attitude that you can't let your teammates down. Maybe for a 7th game you do that. Mid season, no. BGal is from the same mold to his own detriment
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Post by seventeen on Jan 23, 2023 1:13:44 GMT -5
Yes, he's very much like that. Too old school to change, I'm thinking.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Jan 23, 2023 11:14:57 GMT -5
Dach misses a second straight practice for a “therapy day”. He took a pretty hard shot block from Gudas a few games back. It seems to be a lingering problem. Hopefully it is nothing more serious as he has been playing well, and with a newfound edge to his game. Don’t need another young guy missing the rest of a critical development year.
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