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Post by jkr on Apr 4, 2023 6:46:24 GMT -5
Cant remember when it happened exactly but Belzile blocked a shot & needed a lot of help getting off.
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Post by frozone on Apr 4, 2023 7:25:35 GMT -5
Cant remember when it happened exactly but Belzile blocked a shot & needed a lot of help getting off. And finished the game as per our medical team's MO. It was in the last game against Carolina. The shot block basically took Belzile out of the play, and the Canes scored a few seconds afterwards iirc.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2023 7:28:03 GMT -5
Cant remember when it happened exactly but Belzile blocked a shot & needed a lot of help getting off. And finished the game as per our medical team's MO. It was in the last game against Carolina. The shot block basically took Belzile out of the play, and the Canes scored a few seconds afterwards iirc. This medical staff needs a CSI investigation... fractured leg and they send him out... is this the same crew Bergy had in place ffs?
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 4, 2023 7:58:00 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Apr 4, 2023 16:43:18 GMT -5
Cant remember when it happened exactly but Belzile blocked a shot & needed a lot of help getting off. And finished the game as per our medical team's MO. It was in the last game against Carolina. The shot block basically took Belzile out of the play, and the Canes scored a few seconds afterwards iirc. I continue to not be a fan of shot blocking unless the forward has a titanium shield he can carry in front of him, say 3 x 6 in size. If you can get a stick in front, fine, but don't block shots with hands, feet or any other body part. The goalie is paid to do that. Let him see the shot and react.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 11, 2023 10:24:33 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 14, 2023 10:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Apr 14, 2023 10:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Apr 14, 2023 12:10:58 GMT -5
Why on earth do they let guys do these things? Guys playing with broken bones early in a nothing season- dumb.
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Post by folatre on Apr 14, 2023 12:29:49 GMT -5
Unfortunately, thanks to Bergevin, the organization is stuck with one declining injury-prone "hero" but at least management has the opportunity to walk away from the other one.
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Post by seventeen on Apr 14, 2023 14:00:22 GMT -5
Why on earth do they let guys do these things? Guys playing with broken bones early in a nothing season- dumb. He read about Bobby Baun and wanted the same legend. But for a whole season, not the end of a game. Incredibly stupid, no? On his part and Management's. If they'd let it heal he might have missed half the season.
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Post by Andrew on Apr 14, 2023 14:31:05 GMT -5
This is something that Hughes and co will have to address in the offseason. Back-to-back years of absurdly high injury totals, punctuated by these stories of players being allowed to play through injuries leading to significantly worse outcomes. During a rebuild year it's not such a huge concern, however, if we were in the midst of a window of contention this would be devastating.
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 14, 2023 18:59:28 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Apr 14, 2023 21:14:33 GMT -5
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Post by habsorbed on Apr 15, 2023 2:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by Skilly on Apr 15, 2023 7:58:42 GMT -5
This is something that Hughes and co will have to address in the offseason. Back-to-back years of absurdly high injury totals, punctuated by these stories of players being allowed to play through injuries leading to significantly worse outcomes. During a rebuild year it's not such a huge concern, however, if we were in the midst of a window of contention this would be devastating. 1199 man games lost. The most in any 2 year window in NHL history
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Post by Andrew on Jun 13, 2023 17:33:26 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jun 13, 2023 20:31:27 GMT -5
Guys get injured on thd ice. Some come back far too soon.
I'm trying to see how firing the therapy guys helps that. Rynbend, in particular, was with the team for about 20 years.
There were some kind words in the comments including a post from Craig Rivet.
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Post by frozone on Jun 13, 2023 20:33:55 GMT -5
So... if I get this right, the Habs have let go of Training staff members only... Not a single person from the Medical staff loses their job? Really??? Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt Rynbend and Balmforth would have had the authority to dictate when a player was fit to play or not. That clearance comes comes from the Medical staff, doesn't it? I'm shocked that there wasn't a single member from the medical staff to lose their position. I hope this isn't a case of trainers taking the fall undeservedly.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 13, 2023 20:41:28 GMT -5
So... if I get this right, the Habs have let go of Training staff members only... Not a single person from the Medical staff loses their job? Really??? Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt Rynbend and Balmforth would have had the authority to dictate when a player was fit to play or not. That clearance comes comes from the Medical staff, doesn't it? I'm shocked that there wasn't a single member from the medical staff to lose their position. I hope this isn't a case of trainers taking the fall undeservedly. I agree this is fishy and has a smell to it
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Post by jkr on Jun 13, 2023 20:56:24 GMT -5
I dont get why most of the people replying to the tweet think this is the right response.
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Post by habsorbed on Jun 14, 2023 1:54:19 GMT -5
I'd be curious to know the average age of the physios on other teams. Through personal experience I've learned that a young physio is far superior to an older, trained long ago one. These two guys seem pretty ancient and perhaps too old school.
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Post by jkr on Jun 14, 2023 5:43:18 GMT -5
According to the Gazette Balmforth was only hired 2 years ago. If they thought he was too old, he shouldn't have been hired.
As for age, well I think it's a matter of keeping up with latest techniques that's more important.
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Post by PTH on Jun 14, 2023 10:37:05 GMT -5
I wonder if this isn't just about communication styles - if these physios couldn't relate to the kids and get a good read on them, they aren't going to be able to do their jobs well, and a lot of injuries are preventable through conditioning... if you get the players to do so.
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Post by Polarice on Jun 14, 2023 11:44:09 GMT -5
So... if I get this right, the Habs have let go of Training staff members only... Not a single person from the Medical staff loses their job? Really??? Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt Rynbend and Balmforth would have had the authority to dictate when a player was fit to play or not. That clearance comes comes from the Medical staff, doesn't it? I'm shocked that there wasn't a single member from the medical staff to lose their position. I hope this isn't a case of trainers taking the fall undeservedly. Nope, it comes from the physiotherapist. Medical staff only deal with the initial injury, once surgery is completed if necessary they are handed off to the physiotherapist.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 14, 2023 11:51:03 GMT -5
Are we all becoming Dr. Recchi's lol
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Post by seventeen on Jun 14, 2023 13:07:36 GMT -5
According to the Gazette Balmforth was only hired 2 years ago. If they thought he was too old, he shouldn't have been hired. As for age, well I think it's a matter of keeping up with latest techniques that's more important. Hmmm. Two years ago. Hired by the old regime, where they valued 'experience' above all else. So Mr Mechanic....you know everything there is to know about the Model T, huh? You're hired! that's a silly example, of course. My thinking is that given a choice, I would not want someone brand new at the practice, nor someone who has been at it 30 years or so. Old enough to have gained experience because practical knowledge is valuable as well as 'book' knowledge. But still....it seems odd to release these guys. You'd think the medical staff had something to do with the injuries. Who is it that clears the player to return? But what if it's not the Medical staff making that decisions? Far be it from me to suggest professional teams' medical staffs are hired for optics. PS. I just finished reading that Matt Tkachuk was held out of Game 5 because he had a fractured Sternum. He incurred the injury in Game 3, left the game and returned after passing concussion protocol. No one noticed he had a fractured sternum, huh? He played in Game 4 as well, with a fractured sternum. You'd think that would hamper your game, unless of course you're chock full of pain killers. This is crazy. I'm not a Tkachuk fan, but you can't have guys risking their careers over major injuries where the medical staff are merely interested onlookers. Sheesh.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 14, 2023 13:15:53 GMT -5
Are we all becoming Dr. Recchi's lol I believe I'm well past that stage of competence. I know about blood pressure and pulse rates. Is that enough?
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Post by franko on Jun 14, 2023 15:43:17 GMT -5
Are we all becoming Dr. Recchi's lol I believe I'm well past that stage of competence. I know about blood pressure and pulse rates. Is that enough? as long as you have a pulse . . .
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Post by habsorbed on Jun 14, 2023 16:26:07 GMT -5
I( couldn't help but snicker in reading that the injuries cost Molson approx $20 million with adding further contract sto fill the depleted roster. Interesting how $$$ got Molson's attention to do something
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