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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 23, 2024 20:02:23 GMT -5
You don't announce who and when you are going to murd...err...beat the crap out of someone. Pre-meditated beat-the-crap-oit-of-them carry suspensions. Seriously, is ANYONE street smart on the Habs? Or are they ice-cream huggers? It means rempe will be on the ice when Arber is |
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Post by folatre on Oct 23, 2024 20:35:21 GMT -5
Montreal needs men who play edgy and angry, and who take things that happen on the ice personally. After the mayhem of the preseason, Montreal has oddly avoided playing with any edge or malice.
In the post-lockout NHL, management rather than coaches decide who is in the lineup and who is in the press box/minors. If I were making those decisions, I would inform my coach that players feeding the passivity that prevails on the ice will be put on notice that they are candidates to be scratched, demoted, or waived. I would also inform my coach that guys who play passionately and physically will move to front of the queue.
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Post by Cranky on Oct 23, 2024 20:54:33 GMT -5
Montreal needs men who play edgy and angry, and who take things that happen on the ice personally. After the mayhem of the preseason, Montreal has oddly avoided playing with any edge or malice. In the post-lockout NHL, management rather than coaches decide who is in the lineup and who is in the press box/minors. If I were making those decisions, I would inform my coach that players feeding the passivity that prevails on the ice will be put on notice that they are candidates to be scratched, demoted, or waived. I would also inform my coach that guys who play passionately and physically will move to front of the queue. Huh? Are you sure you're not from the Rocket and Fergy era? The era were you rather beat the opposition with a bat then have a beer with them. A BIG bat. We are so far from that now. THAT era players grew up with worn shoes and street fist fights in the resume, now, it's Fotnite, Apple 14 and Johnny-is-beautiful-boy in every level of their careers. By definition, the kids now need so many $$$ to play that back street kids growing up with poverty and anger in the growth spurts need not apply. To say that I agree with you is probably the understatement of the decade. You either play to win, at any cost, or **** off. Having serious emotional mismanagement issues, I would be coming in with a vicious elbow with the full intent to injure. Nothing can beat the constant reminder of a broken jaw. Of course being a nice guy, mindful of the pain my fellow man can go through, I would send him a straw to eat his food. That is also why I had zero issues, nee, enjoyment with X leveling Stutzle. One can paint flowery words on a Jumbotron, but hockey is a hard physical sport. These "hockey play accidents" need special facial reconstruction education to keep from happening. Can i be clearer? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 23, 2024 20:58:08 GMT -5
Montreal needs men who play edgy and angry, and who take things that happen on the ice personally. After the mayhem of the preseason, Montreal has oddly avoided playing with any edge or malice. In the post-lockout NHL, management rather than coaches decide who is in the lineup and who is in the press box/minors. If I were making those decisions, I would inform my coach that players feeding the passivity that prevails on the ice will be put on notice that they are candidates to be scratched, demoted, or waived. I would also inform my coach that guys who play passionately and physically will move to front of the queue. I'm all for this... tired of seeing the wall flowers Anderson, Evans and dvo getting primo minutes... Anderson especially, marriage has made him a pussy |
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Post by folatre on Oct 23, 2024 21:09:05 GMT -5
Anderson was a huge disappointment last season. I think he got in his own head and not contributing offensively actually made him abandon the aggressiveness that should be a mandatory for a player with his limited skill set. In contrast, I have very few complaints with him season (maybe a couple of penalties). But he is playing hard North-South hockey with pace on a line that has arguably been plenty fine for who they are (I would actually get Evans off that line to try to get Dvorak going and if he can it would give Anderson and Gallagher a somewhat more skilled center).
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Post by seventeen on Oct 24, 2024 1:33:07 GMT -5
Montreal needs men who play edgy and angry, and who take things that happen on the ice personally. After the mayhem of the preseason, Montreal has oddly avoided playing with any edge or malice. In the post-lockout NHL, management rather than coaches decide who is in the lineup and who is in the press box/minors. If I were making those decisions, I would inform my coach that players feeding the passivity that prevails on the ice will be put on notice that they are candidates to be scratched, demoted, or waived. I would also inform my coach that guys who play passionately and physically will move to front of the queue. It may be my imagination, but folatre, you're getting downright nasty. Your posts were a model of balance, patience and acuity, and now you're drawing lines in the sand. That's how I feel! There was a guy interviewed on CBC postulating that a lot of us are suffering from Pandemic PTSD. I think that guy is right. A lot of my friends are angrier than they ever were before and less patient. I know I often feel that way and have to remind myself to take a deep breath, wait until tomorrow before replying, etc. At least I haven't broken any bones by punching a wall (and then having to repair the wall too)  |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 24, 2024 3:12:31 GMT -5
Stanley Cup is not a Participation Award...
If you don't have emotional mismanagement issues about winning, you're not trying hard enough.
I grew up in the Richard and Fergy era. Those guys would gladly donate body parts to win. The closest we've seen a small, tiny fraction of that was our cup run of 2021.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 24, 2024 4:52:39 GMT -5
Montreal needs men who play edgy and angry, and who take things that happen on the ice personally. After the mayhem of the preseason, Montreal has oddly avoided playing with any edge or malice. In the post-lockout NHL, management rather than coaches decide who is in the lineup and who is in the press box/minors. If I were making those decisions, I would inform my coach that players feeding the passivity that prevails on the ice will be put on notice that they are candidates to be scratched, demoted, or waived. I would also inform my coach that guys who play passionately and physically will move to front of the queue. It may be my imagination, but folatre, you're getting downright nasty. Your posts were a model of balance, patience and acuity, and now you're drawing lines in the sand.  That's how I feel! There was a guy interviewed on CBC postulating that a lot of us are suffering from Pandemic PTSD. I think that guy is right. A lot of my friends are angrier than they ever were before and less patient. I know I often feel that way and have to remind myself to take a deep breath, wait until tomorrow before replying, etc. At least I haven't broken any bones by punching a wall (and then having to repair the wall too) I agree about pandemic ptsd... all you have to do is drive your car in town, people are reckless and drive like morons... a lot of anger on the roads. Some of us on here are starting to get Habs PTSD... 😀 |
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Post by CentreHice on Oct 24, 2024 8:18:35 GMT -5
Stanley Cup is not a Participation Award... If you don't have emotional mismanagement issues about winning, you're not trying hard enough. I grew up in the Richard and Fergy era. Those guys would gladly donate body parts to win. The closest we've seen a small, tiny fraction of that was our cup run of 2021. Yep. In the Lady Byng's 100-year existence, only 2 Habs have won it. Toe Blake in 1946 and Mats Naslund in 1988. That would be ZERO times during their 15 Cups from 1956-1979 and only ONCE (Blake) in all 24 Cup years. On the other hand--our coach has won it 3 times--2010, 2011, and 2013. Mindset at the top? Nobody thinks this edition is Cup-worthy...but are there any signs of the coarse-grit sandpaper it takes? |
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Post by Polarice on Oct 24, 2024 9:14:32 GMT -5
Stanley Cup is not a Participation Award... If you don't have emotional mismanagement issues about winning, you're not trying hard enough. I grew up in the Richard and Fergy era. Those guys would gladly donate body parts to win. The closest we've seen a small, tiny fraction of that was our cup run of 2021. Yep. In the Lady Byng's 100-year existence, only 2 Habs have won it. Toe Blake in 1946 and Mats Naslund in 1988. That would be ZERO times during their 15 Cups from 1956-1979 and only ONCE (Blake) in all 24 Cup years. On the other hand--our coach has won it 3 times--2010, 2011, and 2013. Mindset at the top? Nobody thinks this edition is Cup-worthy...but are there any signs of the coarse-grit sandpaper it takes? There is, but we need an old time coach to implement it. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 24, 2024 13:13:27 GMT -5
Stanley Cup is not a Participation Award... If you don't have emotional mismanagement issues about winning, you're not trying hard enough. I grew up in the Richard and Fergy era. Those guys would gladly donate body parts to win. The closest we've seen a small, tiny fraction of that was our cup run of 2021. Yep. In the Lady Byng's 100-year existence, only 2 Habs have won it. Toe Blake in 1946 and Mats Naslund in 1988. That would be ZERO times during their 15 Cups from 1956-1979 and only ONCE (Blake) in all 24 Cup years. On the other hand--our coach has won it 3 times--2010, 2011, and 2013. Mindset at the top? Nobody thinks this edition is Cup-worthy...but are there any signs of the coarse-grit sandpaper it takes? There are a few players that are tough but nothing on the level we had even a few years ago. I hate to give BargainBin any credit but when he assembled the team, he had a more street level view of the game. Weber, Chiarot, Perry and Ghally led the blood drinking brigade. Rest followed by osmosis or pride. We have none of it now and the guy who has a few screws loose is sitting in the stands. Does anyone think that this is lost on the rest of the team? I keep saying that we now have the coroprate GM hiring the appropiate corporate coach playing an acceptable game of "tough" hockey. These are are NOT the Lions of Winter. Not even the lion cubs. More like the neutered Capons of Winter. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Oct 24, 2024 13:52:26 GMT -5
They needed to bring in a defense minded associate coach during the offseason. Robidas and Letowski are not it. Let Marty focus on the offense, transition and powerplay. Are you suggesting another tank season? I didn't mind the thought of missing the playoffs, but I was hoping to improve enough to be drafting 10-12. Our core has to take the next step this season to be ready to take more next steps next season. Losing would be ok, but the way we are losing is not ok. Marty wouldn't be the first top tier player to flub as a coach, and he may not be a failure yet. Gretzky was a terrible coach (probably for many of the same reasons)....not defensively aware and far smarter than the players he was coaching. I thought Marty might be different because he had to work to get to the elite level so perhaps he could pass on some knowledge. I think he is doing that, as several of our guys have improved in many facets. If they're doing too much thinking, though, it's a problem. Some players can work it out, but in general (please don't pummel me) the majority of hockey players are superior on the physical side, inferior on the mental side. Not all, naturally. I believe the general level on the Habs is pretty good, but all you need is one guy on the ice who doesn't get the system and it breaks down for everyone. I would think that about a quarter of the Habs players are on that inferior side and one is very likely to be on the ice at any given time. Once that sort of stuff becomes apparent, players stop giving it their all and the slide begins. Tocchet in Vancouver is a great example. When he replaced Boudreau, discipline got a lot better, without him have to act like a tyrant. If Marty can accept an experienced, system guy as an assistant, they could make a good team. I wouldn't mind another top 5 pick to be honest - the last two won't be playing with us this year. But I also see the value in growing, learning and succeeding and building winning habits. I just know that I am not thrilled with the coaching staff, specifically the defensive side of things. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 24, 2024 15:13:51 GMT -5
The NHL's response to this is "Clean but mean". My suggestion is to call up a bigger, reasonably tough guy from Laval for our next game against NY. Preferably a guy who is a good bodychecker. He needs to join a forecheck and arrive just a little too late to keep Trouba from making a pass, but too quickly for him to bring his stick up, and then check him high on the chest (initial point of contact has to be the chest), and allow the shoulder pads to rise to the head, because it would then be a clean but mean check and give Mr. Trouba some time off from work with an upper body injury.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 24, 2024 16:09:21 GMT -5
The NHL's response to this is "Clean but mean". My suggestion is to call up a bigger, reasonably tough guy from Laval for our next game against NY. Preferably a guy who is a good bodychecker. He needs to join a forecheck and arrive just a little too late to keep Trouba from making a pass, but too quickly for him to bring his stick up, and then check him high on the chest (initial point of contact has to be the chest), and allow the shoulder pads to rise to the head, because it would then be a clean but mean check and give Mr. Trouba some time off from work with an upper body injury. Yep, actually if he's an ahl lifer tell him to be a missle |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 24, 2024 16:11:56 GMT -5
It warms the cracks in my soul to have so many edumacated savages on the Crank Express.
Hagus and prairie oystets on the menu....
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 24, 2024 17:33:17 GMT -5
It warms the cracks in my soul to have so many edumacated savages on the Crank Express. Hagus and prairie oystets on the menu.... check out my post in the St. Louis thread |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 24, 2024 17:59:00 GMT -5
It warms the cracks in my soul to have so many edumacated savages on the Crank Express. Hagus and prairie oystets on the menu.... check out my post in the St. Louis thread How can you yell at the players when the players are not at fault? Does Marty have a full legnth mirror? |
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Post by folatre on Oct 24, 2024 18:11:39 GMT -5
Jeje, seventeen, my roster building vision has not really changed all that much. I have always been advocating for having a bigger, meaner team. My template is not any of the Habs dynasties because I never saw them. It is mid and late-80s Habs.
But for sure, what I have been watching on this four game losing streak (three at home) has me P-offed. It is not the losing per se, I said 84 points and no playoffs. It is the lack of readiness in the first period. It is the lack of fire and passion. It is the shocking lack of structure in all three zones. It is the lack of an identity.
I am not calling for St. Louis' head. I think he is rightly going to get this full season to demonstrate that his vision of hockey and his good man management skills can help young players improve.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 24, 2024 18:13:11 GMT -5
Cranky check out my post in the St. Louis thread How can you yell at the players when the players are not at fault? Does Marty has a full legnth mirror? Im mot sticking up for Marty but he is not telling them to avoid contact... that's on the passionless ones... Slaf, dvo, armia, anderson, Matheson, Barron, savard, Dach, Mailloux, Guhle... all big guys who don't make contact |
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Post by Skilly on Oct 24, 2024 19:24:49 GMT -5
Are you suggesting another tank season? I didn't mind the thought of missing the playoffs, but I was hoping to improve enough to be drafting 10-12. Our core has to take the next step this season to be ready to take more next steps next season. Losing would be ok, but the way we are losing is not ok. Marty wouldn't be the first top tier player to flub as a coach, and he may not be a failure yet. Gretzky was a terrible coach (probably for many of the same reasons)....not defensively aware and far smarter than the players he was coaching. I thought Marty might be different because he had to work to get to the elite level so perhaps he could pass on some knowledge. I think he is doing that, as several of our guys have improved in many facets. If they're doing too much thinking, though, it's a problem. Some players can work it out, but in general (please don't pummel me) the majority of hockey players are superior on the physical side, inferior on the mental side. Not all, naturally. I believe the general level on the Habs is pretty good, but all you need is one guy on the ice who doesn't get the system and it breaks down for everyone. I would think that about a quarter of the Habs players are on that inferior side and one is very likely to be on the ice at any given time. Once that sort of stuff becomes apparent, players stop giving it their all and the slide begins. Tocchet in Vancouver is a great example. When he replaced Boudreau, discipline got a lot better, without him have to act like a tyrant. If Marty can accept an experienced, system guy as an assistant, they could make a good team. I wouldn't mind another top 5 pick to be honest - the last two won't be playing with us this year. But I also see the value in growing, learning and succeeding and building winning habits. I just know that I am not thrilled with the coaching staff, specifically the defensive side of things. I said last year that the more we lose, the more we get used to losing and we will be unable to just suddenly build a winning culture. People talk about the rebuild in terms of prospects. It should never be that way, it should be judged based on how this team learns to play with the lead, how they react to bad calls and bad plays, and more importantly how they respond to losing. Oh yeah, and this week there are reports players were laughing after getting blown out and saying winning this year doesn't matter (paraphrased - I went looking for the tweet and found it. Bob Hartley is who reported it). Losing begets a losing attitude, winning begets a winning attitude which is why I always say we should be active in free agency and the trade deadline. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 24, 2024 20:46:38 GMT -5
So let me get this straight, I'm paying money and pissed off as a 65 year Hab fan...and some of these millionaire punks think it's just a loss? And it's OK?
Find the leader of indifference and send him to Laval until he discovers his inner "i'm getting f over".
Let everyone know what happened.
Sometimes you can do more with less.
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Post by jkr on Oct 24, 2024 21:00:42 GMT -5
I have to agree with Skilly here. Losing begets losing and you just can't throw a switch and start playing solid winning hockey. So, it's OK to lose now? When does it become not OK? Next year? The year after? If that's their way of looking at it we better get used to losing.
7 years for the Senators and no playoffs, 13 or 14 years for the Sabres. That's what will happen here.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Oct 25, 2024 17:09:59 GMT -5
I said last year that the more we lose, the more we get used to losing and we will be unable to just suddenly build a winning culture. People talk about the rebuild in terms of prospects. It should never be that way, it should be judged based on how this team learns to play with the lead, how they react to bad calls and bad plays, and more importantly how they respond to losing. Oh yeah, and this week there are reports players were laughing after getting blown out and saying winning this year doesn't matter (paraphrased - I went looking for the tweet and found it. Bob Hartley is who reported it). Losing begets a losing attitude, winning begets a winning attitude which is why I always say we should be active in free agency and the trade deadline. Meh, I disagree. I'm no professional athlete but I've played on teams that were bottom feeders for a few years. On one of those teams when I was one of the young guys, we were the laughing stock of the league. We hated that losing feeling, our rookie mistakes and our tendencies to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again and again. Over the next few years, we became the core, some of the old guard left and new players came in. Despite those losing years, we did not let if affect our future. We learned from the tough times and as our skills and smarts improved we began winning regularly and a few years later we became an excellent team. We won more than our fair share including a Provincial championship. That is why NHL teams invest so much in soft skills. They're looking for players with mental toughness, resilience, adaptability and team skills beyond the physical skills to get through the tough times.... As for the real athletes you don't have to look far to see repeated failures before winning it all. It wasn't that long ago that Colorado was a bottom feeder and looked to be going nowhere. Or St. Louis had no chance at even making the playoffs before winning the Cup or Ovechkin and the Capitals just couldn't win the important games. There's just so much skill and parity in this league. The Habs have a young team and are going to make mistakes and lose a lot but the future is bright. I'd rather the stay the course and watch them take their time and not end up looking for a silver bullet fix. Demidov will be here next year, Rein in a year or 2 and several other prospects will crack the line up in the future. All these young guys will continue to develop. Laine will return. The salary cap is in good shape. The foundation for long term success has been firmly established. However, this won't happen overnight so hang on for an up and down ride. |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 25, 2024 22:13:00 GMT -5
Great points, IamC. On Basu and Godin's notebook today they delved deep into Marty's system. This hybrid system instructs players above the dots to force, playing man on man. Under the dots, it's zone. Now the zone as Basu described it, requires decision making. Not only switching from zone to man to man, but also when to force. For example, Basu said that on some occasions where the opportunity arises, say an opponent mishandles the puck slightly behind the net, the dman is to attack vigourously and hope to create a turnover. This means leaving the front of the net, which is imbedded in these kids. You don't leave the front uncovered. So it requires identifying the right situation below the hashmarks and choosing to push or not while going against every instinct. Given the age of the dmen on our team and the fact they haven't been learning this system very long, it breaks down and looks like $hit.
Marty, however, is adamant that the system is not going to change. Either the players prove they can execute the system or they'll be replaced by someone else. Now it wasn't phrased as harshly as that, but I'm making the clear distinction. It's up to the players to adapt, because this system is what's working in the NHL right now. It may even be the reason the Panthers won last year. They took chances to (cough) check players (translation: injure) when they could. It might hurt them occasionally, but in the long run it wears down other teams. That's too simplistic. They wouldn't have won anything, regardless of the system, without Barkov and Bobrovsky playing at elite levels.
Clearly, and this was stated by Basu and Godin, the system is not changing and Marty will sacrifice this year to another development stage if necessary. We may not like it, but it ain't changing, so we can at least understand why the team is playing like it is.
Anderson was used as an example. He couldn't process the system quickly enough so he is basically ignoring it and playing as he did before. It's improved his performance, but I don't see it helping the team any. He's definitely on the gone list. (My opinion)
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Post by Cranky on Oct 26, 2024 0:10:18 GMT -5
The first time I noticed this ultra brilliant system that can only be invented by advance alien races was...
X got the puck, went behind the net and shot it in the corner as hard as he could. It got intercepted at the blueline. I'm thinking, how stupid is X? Well, upon further investigation by a tiny mind compared to the Brilliant Marty...X teammates were all in front of him, around the net.
Choice one...flip it in the air and down the ice. Icing.
Pass it forward...everybody covered.
Off the glass...from the net, it has to hit at least the glass 10 feet from the blueline and high probability it's a miss and 2 minute penalty.
Give it to the goaltender...best move but now he's guilty of not using possession.
What is he suppose to do? I vote that every player should be able to stop the play, go to the brilliant coach who designed the system and ask for instructions. Then go back and resume from the exact spot.
Hunting through that play started to reveal a pattern. A brilliant pattern of chaos were we don't know if we are suppose to play man-to-man coverage, zone coverage or line dance to a Garth Brooks song.
It's a nonsense "system" because it depends on heavy, aggressive, knock down team work. With players we don't have and defenseman who are scared s***less to make a mistake.
So we get trapped...and look like beer league team that started heavy drinking real early.
Whatever...why am I getting upset over this. Go back to waiting until the game is over and DELETE. Or maybe they are not even worth the 5 bucks for RDS.
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Post by Skilly on Oct 26, 2024 10:39:47 GMT -5
I said last year that the more we lose, the more we get used to losing and we will be unable to just suddenly build a winning culture. People talk about the rebuild in terms of prospects. It should never be that way, it should be judged based on how this team learns to play with the lead, how they react to bad calls and bad plays, and more importantly how they respond to losing. Oh yeah, and this week there are reports players were laughing after getting blown out and saying winning this year doesn't matter (paraphrased - I went looking for the tweet and found it. Bob Hartley is who reported it). Losing begets a losing attitude, winning begets a winning attitude which is why I always say we should be active in free agency and the trade deadline. Meh, I disagree. I'm no professional athlete but I've played on teams that were bottom feeders for a few years. On one of those teams when I was one of the young guys, we were the laughing stock of the league. We hated that losing feeling, our rookie mistakes and our tendencies to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again and again. Over the next few years, we became the core, some of the old guard left and new players came in. Despite those losing years, we did not let if affect our future. We learned from the tough times and as our skills and smarts improved we began winning regularly and a few years later we became an excellent team. We won more than our fair share including a Provincial championship. That is why NHL teams invest so much in soft skills. They're looking for players with mental toughness, resilience, adaptability and team skills beyond the physical skills to get through the tough times.... As for the real athletes you don't have to look far to see repeated failures before winning it all. It wasn't that long ago that Colorado was a bottom feeder and looked to be going nowhere. Or St. Louis had no chance at even making the playoffs before winning the Cup or Ovechkin and the Capitals just couldn't win the important games. There's just so much skill and parity in this league. The Habs have a young team and are going to make mistakes and lose a lot but the future is bright. I'd rather the stay the course and watch them take their time and not end up looking for a silver bullet fix. Demidov will be here next year, Rein in a year or 2 and several other prospects will crack the line up in the future. All these young guys will continue to develop. Laine will return. The salary cap is in good shape. The foundation for long term success has been firmly established. However, this won't happen overnight so hang on for an up and down ride. Read your post You hated that losing feeling. This team is smiling and joking and saying losing is ok Over the next few years you had a new core. So is this the core now, did the transition start with the drafting of Slaf, or does this team wait more years? Laine will return. Laine won't be here when this team is ready to win, "over the next few years". So yeah, I agree when a team hates to lose you can work with that. But when a team thinks losing is ok, that's a hard culture to get out of the locker room and keep your core |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 26, 2024 12:04:10 GMT -5
So Hartley doesn't like the players 'half-smiling'. I had to remind myself that Bob Hartley ended up in the KHL because that's the league that suits his style the best. Very old school. Now, I don't like the idea of players partying after a loss either, but there's no context to his comments. Did Marty say after losses, "I think we're doing things right. It hasn't come together yet, so don't panic".
Two other points...you often hear the term, "put the last bad game behind you. Fugg-ed abad it". It's true. There's nothing to be learned from a bad loss.
Second point. If you've been to a funeral or ceremony of life you'll know that it's a somber affair but you'll always see smiles because someone is remembering something funny about the deceased.
So, what I take out of Hartley's comments is that Bob should lighten up. One journalist pointed out that on one play, David Savard got confused and made the wrong decision, resulting in a goal.
Final Conclusion: Either Marty is right and the team will adapt to his defense, or Marty will be looking for another job because you can't fire 23 guys. No one is doubting Marty's smarts, or Gretzky's smarts. Yet Gretzky was an ineffective coach. Sometimes it doesn't translate.
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Post by IamCanadiens on Oct 27, 2024 21:16:03 GMT -5
This team is smiling and joking and saying losing is ok Over the next few years you had a new core. So is this the core now, did the transition start with the drafting of Slaf, or does this team wait more years? Laine will return. Laine won't be here when this team is ready to win, "over the next few years". So yeah, I agree when a team hates to lose you can work with that. But when a team thinks losing is ok, that's a hard culture to get out of the locker room and keep your core The core continues to grow and gain new members. If Laine fits in, I can see him staying. If not, they have cap space to find some one else. The team will be very different in a few years. It will simply be more talented and once they are I'll expect more. It's not easy to overcome their current lack of elite talent and abundance of guys expected to play roles beyond their abilities. Armia, Evans, numerous rookie D, Anderson, Dvo. Yikes. I just don't expect much from the Habs at their current state beyond learning, long term success and in some cases addition by subtraction. As for laughing about losing, everybody deals with with losses differently. Whatever it takes, especially in a market like this. This is going to be a two steps forward, one step back kind of year. If laughing at losing helps build teamwork and strong relationships laugh away boys. Who cares what the media and fans think? |
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Oct 28, 2024 15:58:55 GMT -5
As for laughing about losing, everybody deals with with losses differently. Whatever it takes, especially in a market like this. This is going to be a two steps forward, one step back kind of year. If laughing at losing helps build teamwork and strong relationships laugh away boys. Who cares what the media and fans think? I'm not sure if they're laughing it off now ... ever since the media broke the story that Kent Hughes was looking to make a trade to "shake up the team" they've won two straight (St Louis/Philadelphia) ... they're still making mistakes, only now they seem to give a hoot ... at least for the last two games, anyway ... just an opinion ... Cheers. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 28, 2024 16:18:00 GMT -5
As for laughing about losing, everybody deals with with losses differently. Whatever it takes, especially in a market like this. This is going to be a two steps forward, one step back kind of year. If laughing at losing helps build teamwork and strong relationships laugh away boys. Who cares what the media and fans think? I'm not sure if they're laughing it off now ... ever since the media broke the story that Kent Hughes was looking to make a trade to "shake up the team" they've won two straight (St Louis/Philadelphia) ... they're still making mistakes, only now they seem to give a hoot ... at least for the last two games, anyway ... just an opinion ... Cheers. They cannot be allowed to become the leafs |
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