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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 25, 2018 9:32:05 GMT -5
July 1st is rapidly coming ... both James Neal and David Perron are considering moving on from Vegas ... depending on what Neale is asking for I'd probably make a pitch for him ... I'd take a pass on Perron ... Cheers. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 25, 2018 9:36:42 GMT -5
You mean Vegas right? not Nashville.
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Post by blny on Jun 25, 2018 9:42:29 GMT -5
I'd take Neal over Perron, because he'd provide a net presence we don't have. Perron is dangerous. He had a great contract year, but has an extensive history of disappearing.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jun 25, 2018 9:54:49 GMT -5
You mean Vegas right? not Nashville. Thanks, mate ... I realized only a moment ago but you were quick on the draw ... right on ... that said, if they were to bring James Neal I think they'd have to find him a centre tout de suite ... seems to be easier said than done when it comes to Montreal ... Plan B for Toronto? ... Cheers. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 25, 2018 13:27:59 GMT -5
We are not getting anyone. Maybe and this is a big maybe perron because he is a local guy.
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Post by folatre on Jun 27, 2018 16:51:54 GMT -5
It sounds like Jack Johnson to the Penguins is virtually a done deal. Supposedly the terms of the deal are 5 years/$16 million. That is not nearly as gruesome as the number people were speculating about a couple of weeks ago when his name was connected to the Habs. But all the same, I would not want another vet d-man on the decline blocking anyone younger player worth having an extended look at such as Reilly.
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Post by PTH on Jun 27, 2018 17:47:47 GMT -5
It sounds like Jack Johnson to the Penguins is virtually a done deal. Supposedly the terms of the deal are 5 years/$16 million. That is not nearly as gruesome as the number people were speculating about a couple of weeks ago when his name was connected to the Habs. But all the same, I would not want another vet d-man on the decline blocking anyone younger player worth having an extended look at such as Reilly. Sounds like a guy who'll be traded with a 2nd rounder for future considerations... in 2 to 3 years... |
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Post by blny on Jun 28, 2018 13:37:54 GMT -5
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Post by franko on Jun 28, 2018 14:29:47 GMT -5
Wow. Not good enough for Detroit but MB is going after him? Well, there is all that cap space to use to improve the team. |
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Post by blny on Jun 28, 2018 14:36:14 GMT -5
Wow. Not good enough for Detroit but MB is going after him? Well, there is all that cap space to use to improve the team. I mean, he could be a 2-way deal I suppose ... |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 28, 2018 14:49:45 GMT -5
Wow. Not good enough for Detroit but MB is going after him? Well, there is all that cap space to use to improve the team. I mean, he could be a 2-way deal I suppose ... Dear Blny, You can never have enough 7th and 8th defenseman. Thank you and buy our hotdogs. Regards Marc "DumpsterDiving" Bergevin |
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Post by PTH on Jun 28, 2018 14:53:28 GMT -5
Wow. Not good enough for Detroit but MB is going after him? Well, there is all that cap space to use to improve the team. I mean, he could be a 2-way deal I suppose ... Why not ? Local guy who will enjoy Laval and might still figure things out. |
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Post by Cranky on Jun 28, 2018 15:07:20 GMT -5
I mean, he could be a 2-way deal I suppose ... Why not ? Local guy who will enjoy Laval and might still figure things out. No problem with local...unless local was the only criteria. Ouellet is 24 and has 141 NHL games over 4 years under his belt. It's not lack of chance that he's not moving into top 6. I'm not sure but I think he has to pass waivers to be sent down. If so, it becomes a bit of a numbers game where he has to improve to usable top 6 or he doesn't get a chance to play with the Habs.....unless it becomes a dire need. |
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Post by folatre on Jun 28, 2018 19:39:28 GMT -5
I do not mind a guy like him for Laval. However, unless Bergevin is cutting some of his losses (Alzer, Schlemko) on the left side, then an acquisition of this type is not likely to impact the Habs.
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Post by blny on Jun 28, 2018 19:43:47 GMT -5
I do not mind a guy like him for Laval. However, unless Bergevin is cutting some of his losses (Alzer, Schlemko) on the left side, then an acquisition of this type is not likely to impact the Habs. A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2018 19:59:56 GMT -5
I do not mind a guy like him for Laval. However, unless Bergevin is cutting some of his losses (Alzer, Schlemko) on the left side, then an acquisition of this type is not likely to impact the Habs. A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. That won't happen... it's not on him... it's in the room because MB has assembled the creme de la creme |
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Post by blny on Jun 28, 2018 20:04:05 GMT -5
A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. That won't happen... it's not on him... it's in the room because MB has assembled the creme de la creme I know it's wishful thinking, but a guy can dream no? lol |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2018 20:23:24 GMT -5
I do not mind a guy like him for Laval. However, unless Bergevin is cutting some of his losses (Alzer, Schlemko) on the left side, then an acquisition of this type is not likely to impact the Habs. A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. 🤣 😅 🤓 |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2018 20:31:36 GMT -5
That won't happen... it's not on him... it's in the room because MB has assembled the creme de la creme I know it's wishful thinking, but a guy can dream no? lol It's more like I have been hypnotized into believing I'm a leafs fan from the 80s |
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Post by blny on Jun 28, 2018 20:35:34 GMT -5
A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. 🤣 😅 🤓 Gotta be able to laugh during these murky times.  |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2018 20:44:33 GMT -5
I know it's wishful thinking, but a guy can dream no? lol It's more like I have been hypnotized into believing I'm a leafs fan from the 80s Harold Ballard. Boo! |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 28, 2018 21:09:03 GMT -5
It's more like I have been hypnotized into believing I'm a leafs fan from the 80s Harold Ballard. Boo! I'd love to hack the Air Canada centre during the leafs 1st home game and put a Ballard meme saying 'I'm Back!!!'on the jumbotron... it would ruin their season. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 28, 2018 21:40:12 GMT -5
That would be so worth a couple of nights in jail.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 28, 2018 21:41:16 GMT -5
I do not mind a guy like him for Laval. However, unless Bergevin is cutting some of his losses (Alzer, Schlemko) on the left side, then an acquisition of this type is not likely to impact the Habs. A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. What's the point? We have 18 million of cap space and we are not going to use it this summer so why waste the cap hit? Might as well suck it up. |
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Post by drkcloud on Jun 28, 2018 22:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by seventeen on Jun 29, 2018 0:35:15 GMT -5
That's the trouble with pretty well any UFA, at least until the GM's wise up. It's simply not worth going long term with most of these guys. There are exceptional circumstances, such as Stamkos last year and Tavares this year. The elite guys you're going to pay whatever, because they will deliver. Those others, well you're wasting the last few years of their contracts. They become Alzners (who moved into that position much faster than expected because of the poor judgment of the pro scouting boys). If he's not elite don't bother. What might be worth it is guys like Plekanec or Beagle, who fit a specific role and you can sign them to 1 year deals. No long term commitment.
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Post by BadCompany on Jun 29, 2018 8:38:39 GMT -5
Habs fans: We should pick up some young guys who have talent, who were former high picks, but for whatever reason maybe foundered in other organizations.
Also Habs fans: Not that guy!! Sure he is a young guy with talent, a former high pick, but he foundered in another organization!!I jest of course... but only partially. Sometimes guys need a change of scenery. Sometimes they're just not that good. Doesn't hurt to take a chance sometimes. Ouellet was coached by Joel Bouchard back with the Montreal Juniors, and perhaps more interestingly, Ouellet's dad was the guy who got Ducharme into coaching. According to the story Ducharme and Ouellet Senior were playing on a team in France, when the team's coach got sick and had to leave the team. Ouellet and Ducharme took over the team as player-coaches and the rest, as they say, is history.
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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2018 9:00:17 GMT -5
A buyout of Alzner, something I've been on board for since January, would be refreshing. That would be Bergevin admitting a mistaking and doing the right thing by fixing it. What's the point? We have 18 million of cap space and we are not going to use it this summer so why waste the cap hit? Might as well suck it up. Play the kids and suck I guess. Although if Alzner plays as bad as he did the first half of last year he'll go a long way to helping us get Hughes lol. |
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Post by blny on Jun 29, 2018 9:01:38 GMT -5
That's definitely more than I'd give him long term. AFAIC, he's making what he's worth. Maybe you stretch to $6 million if he is fine with 4 years. |
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Post by franko on Jun 29, 2018 10:40:30 GMT -5
I'd love to hack the Air Canada centre during the leafs 1st home game and put a Ballard meme saying 'I'm Back!!!'on the jumbotron... it would ruin their season. you means "ScotiaBank Arena" . . . name change this fall. I like this reasoning for the name change . . . |
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