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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 13:52:50 GMT -5
Great deal with the Avs... This Makes the Avs much harder for The Oil and Flames to play against. Great deal for both teams. Lehkonen has more scoring in him IMO. He's good enough to play on all 4 lines, depending on what the coach is looking for. Really smart, super penalty killer. He's actually worth the first and second that the Avs gave up for him. That 2020 draft was stacked. You can really see it two years later. The Avs could win it all, but their goaltending has to be better than it has shown so far. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 21, 2022 13:53:43 GMT -5
I am impressed with Hughes and Gorton so far. In the last month and a week they have gotten: 2 first round picks (Florida, Calgary) 3 very good prospects (Barron, Smilanic, Heineman) 2 second round picks (Edmonton, Colorado) 2 4th round picks 1 5th round pick For Kulak, Lekhonen, Chariot and Toffoli. All of who I consider replacable on the free agent market or we could always re-sign in July. I am eagerly excited to see all the potential we will select that won’t play for Montreal #jaded Under the old regime I could understand your apprehension; old school coach, no development coaching, etc. But I think the Hans have turned the corner and are really going to focus on draft and development. Look at Caulfield before and after. He is being put in the role he was drafted for. We've discussed this many times how Montréal wouldn't do that before. It would be interesting if we had a 19 year old Galchenyuk and Kotkaniemi on this team today. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 13:54:10 GMT -5
A second rounder is a great return for Kulak. In the various Oilers games that I have watched this season, Lagesson did not look like a NHL d-man. Lagesson has struggled to stick with the Oil on the left side. I guess the Habs can give him more opportunities over the next 20 games and see if they qualify him or else just treat him like a throw in to get the second round pick from Edmonton. Probably a contract dump. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 21, 2022 13:55:30 GMT -5
Shedding a goalie too. The Hamburglar run was short but fun. Not sure why we would do this trade? What's the scoop on the player coming back? |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 13:55:42 GMT -5
And more mobile and more puck skill. Horton have mentioned how they want the team to play in the future and they are picking up pieces that fit that design. A mobile D with puck skills... The anti-Berg D...beautiful. Right handed too. Hughes is going to need a statue in front of the Centre Bell. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 13:55:43 GMT -5
So Laval just got some nice boost for the playoffs with Barron and Schnarr.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 14:00:52 GMT -5
A second rounder is a great return for Kulak. In the various Oilers games that I have watched this season, Lagesson did not look like a NHL d-man. I've only seen him a few times and had the same impression. Hes 26 and only has 57 games at the NHL level. His hockeydb profile indicates that he's bounced around the SEL too. In 2021 he played inn the SEL-1, which is Sweden's version of the AHL. That's why his numbers look better there than either the SWEHL (top league) or Bakersfield in the AHL. It really seems to me like an "salary/contract" dump. We've got a lot of kids coming who need the ice time more than Mr. Lagesson. |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 14:02:49 GMT -5
Was Subbans cap hit so extremely large that no one could fit it in their budget? I know he isn't living up to his contract now but thought maybe someone might bite. He does raise his game in the playoffs and if he's on a contender and there's a reason to play hard and sacrifice..... It's probably the salary. Even if it's only 30% of the $9MM, it's still more than pocket change. There will be interest in the summer. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 21, 2022 14:03:13 GMT -5
What the heck happened to this Shnarr kid in 2019?? Where is THAT guy to?
He play 4 years in the OHL, basically a 30 point guy, until his last OHL year where he got 102 points.
Then he goes to the AHL, where in 4 years he can’t seem to play many games and notches points at a below 0.5 PPG pace
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 14:09:28 GMT -5
I'm hoping Primeau can get there, too, but I'm not as hopeful. Progression is not always a straight line, PTH, so while this year has been disappointing, I'm still hopeful. In any case, Habs have 3 more kids in goal all having terrific years in their own leagues, the NCAA, OHL and the top Swedish league. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 21, 2022 14:10:15 GMT -5
What the heck happened to this Shnarr kid in 2019?? Where is THAT guy to? He play 4 years in the OHL, basically a 30 point guy, until his last OHL year where he got 102 points. Then he goes to the AHL, where in 4 years he can’t seem to play many games and notches points at a below 0.5 PPG pace I checked that out too. His last year in the OHL was 34G and 68A in 65 GP. I am just wondering if he needs to have more playing time as his total AHL games played are all in the 30's and low 40's each year. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 21, 2022 14:11:13 GMT -5
Can't see Allen being traded anymore. There is basically Primeau and Poulin in laval and Price won't be playing yet with Monty.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 14:16:32 GMT -5
And a late move for the Canes. Good add. It will be a battle getting out of the East.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 14:25:58 GMT -5
And a late move for the Canes. Good add. It will be a battle getting out of the East. Good move for Carolina. They were lacking scoring on LW on the top 3 lines. Svechnikov and Niederreiter are good, but drop off after that. I'd love to see Domi and KK together. Canes just weren't willing to pay the silly prices, despite being a contender. Not sure what they paid yet for Max. I've always liked Domi, even with the temper tantrums. If Brind'Amour can get him to play with a bit more control, this will be a very good move. UFA at end of year. |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 14:30:16 GMT -5
Some fun little Hab-connections for Schnarr. On that huge year in 2018-19 he had with Guelph, two of his teammates were Nick Suzuki and Cam Hillis. A few years earlier, he also played at the U18s for Canada with Josh Brook. He will join two of them in Laval now.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 14:30:39 GMT -5
Can't see Allen being traded anymore. There is basically Primeau and Poulin in laval and Price won't be playing yet with Monty. I've never cared for Ken Holland as a top level GM. Average or slightly below that. His 3 cups are largely attributable to 3 lucky late draft picks, Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Everyone gets lucky here and there, but those are three giant horseshoes. In fairness, Holland was shackled by the owner's 'requirement' to make the playoffs 25 years in a row. We have seen in Detroit how a good GM can fix the contracts and put the team on the path to contending again. Holland inherited two franchise guys in Edmonton and hasn't been able to move the team forward. Unless something pops up in the next few minutes, he still hasn't fixed the goalie issue which is the Damocles sword over that team. I'd have been all over Allen. |
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Post by Skilly on Mar 21, 2022 14:49:35 GMT -5
And a late move for the Canes. Good add. It will be a battle getting out of the East. Good move for Carolina. They were lacking scoring on LW on the top 3 lines. Svechnikov and Niederreiter are good, but drop off after that. I'd love to see Domi and KK together. Canes just weren't willing to pay the silly prices, despite being a contender. Not sure what they paid yet for Max. I've always liked Domi, even with the temper tantrums. If Brind'Amour can get him to play with a bit more control, this will be a very good move. UFA at end of year. KK got his contract extended ... 8 years, $4.82 million per season. So that contract officially comes in at $4.96 for 9 years. So much for having to qualify him again for over $6.1 million .... never understood that arguement. Next year is going to be interesting in Carolina |
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Post by Tankdriver on Mar 21, 2022 14:52:29 GMT -5
And to think the got Sven and K.k. at #2 and #3 from the same draft year. If you try that at a daft it would cost a lot more than a late first round draft pick.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 15:06:48 GMT -5
He remains optimistic that a deal can get done later.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 15:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 15:12:32 GMT -5
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 15:26:16 GMT -5
More capital and assets.
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 21, 2022 15:54:27 GMT -5
Watching TVA and Vinnie is having a presser... so weird to see him with a Habs golf shirt on with a big habs logo on it
The commentator, I believe, said he looked good in it.
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Post by seventeen on Mar 21, 2022 15:54:55 GMT -5
To move up to #3 you'd have to give up something like a 6 and a 20. Remains to be seen where Carolina ends up...anywhere from 22 to 32. Giving up a #25 say, and a 55 to move up to #3 is dirt cheap. Math was clearly never Berg's strong suit. The key is still to see what KK is going to end up being. A good #2C and it's a great deal for Carolina. Otherwise, the debate will rage on. All these first round picks being given up by contenders is interesting. That's because all of those contenders have priced those picks as anywhere from 29-32. But there are more than 4 contenders so some of those picks, especially if there's a first round upset, are going to be higher than that. Which team will suffer more than most? Here's hoping it's Florida and Colorado.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on Mar 21, 2022 16:14:20 GMT -5
The Satieri waiver pickup was hilarious... Saw this in the comment section and it made me lol
Too funny…The Coyotes, the biggest benefactor of revenue sharing, is making it challenging for one of the leagues biggest contributors to the pot.
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Post by drkcloud on Mar 21, 2022 16:41:07 GMT -5
And to think the got Sven and K.k. at #2 and #3 from the same draft year. If you try that at a daft it would cost a lot more than a late first round draft pick. Bergy got schooled. Embarrassment to the organization the way things played out with KK |
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Mar 21, 2022 17:26:40 GMT -5
The Kulak deal is official. There is also an Oiler 7th rounder in 2024. The condition on the second is still that the Oilers don’t have to give up the 2nd to CHI, which has close to zero chance of happening.
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Post by folatre on Mar 21, 2022 20:24:56 GMT -5
Columbus made out really poorly on their deal, unless of course Hreschuk is the next coming of a legit top four d-man.
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Post by PTH on Mar 21, 2022 21:29:03 GMT -5
All these first round picks being given up by contenders is interesting. That's because all of those contenders have priced those picks as anywhere from 29-32. But there are more than 4 contenders so some of those picks, especially if there's a first round upset, are going to be higher than that. Which team will suffer more than most? Here's hoping it's Florida and Colorado. You mean Calgary and Edmonton, right? And Florida is next year. And Colorado the year after that... |
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Post by seventeen on Mar 22, 2022 1:56:41 GMT -5
I hope every tax advantaged state team collapses. Its hard for them to do that because of the huge CAP benefit they get every year. If I was the owner of a Cdn team I’d be organizing a cabal of high tax teams to change the CAP to after tax dollars. Those southern teams would squawk so loud.
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