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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 15, 2023 12:37:58 GMT -5
... his dad was present at the scene, too ... go figure ...
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Post by jkr on Jul 15, 2023 15:29:42 GMT -5
I used to defend him here but he's a complete douche. Racial slurs, death threats. He needs some jail time.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Jul 18, 2023 17:10:41 GMT -5
Just some hockey dialog ...
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Post by jkr on Jul 26, 2023 17:28:01 GMT -5
Aho signs a huge deal with the Canes - 8 years, 78 million. It's a 9.75 AAV. Today happens to be his 26 birthday.
And the Leafs put Murray on LTIR. He's got one year left on his deal.
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Post by folatre on Jul 26, 2023 18:02:29 GMT -5
I am not suggesting there are not plenty of LTIR cases that are murky at best. But man, this one with Murray is super questionable. I know he has an ample history of injuries, yet he was healthy in May and on the Leafs playoff roster (he was the backup in at least 2-3 games against Florida). So how did he get hurt over the summer.
Let's face it. I think what happened is Treliving somehow got the message across to Murray's agent that hey your client is getting bought out if he does not feel the LTIR vibe. And for the player, getting bought out means losing $2.67 million USD. Sure maybe if he was bought out he could get a 1 year/$1 million deal somewhere but he would still be walking away from a decent pile of cash. So I believe Murray's agent probably convinced him the wiser financial play is just to go on LTIR.
The problem for Murray looking down the road is that, assuming he wants to continue his career, he will have missed way too much time. By October 2024, Murray will not have played in a hockey game for 19 months. Who is going to want a goalie with more rust than a Ford Falcon?
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 27, 2023 8:14:54 GMT -5
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but Bergeron announced his retirement. He was the straw that stirred that drink down in Beantown. Could see them traiding for Lindholm or Scheffile to fill their # 1 center hole.
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Post by franko on Jul 27, 2023 9:23:46 GMT -5
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but Bergeron announced his retirement. He was the straw that stirred that drink down in Beantown. Could see them traiding for Lindholm or Scheffile to fill their # 1 center hole. if they can find cap room?
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Post by seventeen on Jul 27, 2023 13:26:49 GMT -5
They have nothing to give up, except maybe a 2026 or 27 first rounder and I'd demand no protection on it. Bruins heading for lottery territory. Low odds lottery territory....just missing the playoffs. Can't wait.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 27, 2023 18:37:06 GMT -5
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Post by PTH on Jul 27, 2023 18:48:27 GMT -5
Damn. Part of me was hoping we could pull off something like this and get a rental payoff for it later on.
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Post by folatre on Jul 27, 2023 20:15:25 GMT -5
I liked Tarasenko a lot when he was young NHLer (age 20-28). He can still be a menace to goalies when he finds a sweet spot and the puck appears on his blade. But he is a teetering on the cliff (many wingers are 'there' at age 32) and Tarasenko is not really a dude that works his tail off in all three zones every shifts. And moreover, I believe one of Ottawa's principal problems in the DJ Smith era is that there is almost no defensive structure and he lets his big money boys up front get away with cheating. Tarasenko may reinforce that unhealthy dynamic.
Of course, if the only reason to sign the Russian is to flip him for a late second rounder at the deadline, then maybe Dorion is on to something. But if the hope/prayer of this signing is that he makes the Sens a lot better in the standings, then I would say good luck with that.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 15, 2023 11:41:32 GMT -5
... RIP Mr. Robert Neil "Bobby" Baun ... 1936-2023
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Post by CentreHice on Aug 16, 2023 10:14:49 GMT -5
Warrior. RIP.
He scored only 3 goals in 96 playoff games...but the 3rd has been enshrined in Leafs' lore, as it was scored on a broken ankle suffered earlier in the game. The goal tied the series at 3 and they went home to win their 3rd straight Cup.
Notable is his humility/honesty in saying his "wonderful" shot was a fluttering puck that went off Detroit's Bill Gadsby's stick. Video from 2014, when Baun was 78.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 16, 2023 23:12:17 GMT -5
That broken leg goal was one of the legendary stories I grew up with. Oddly enough, I was a Leafs fan until the '68 season started and it was Habs from then on. I don't know what caused the epiphany, but Leaf fans have regretted it for a long time.
RIP, Mr. Baun.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 23, 2023 16:28:13 GMT -5
Leafs extend Matthews 4 years @ $13.25 per.
Guarantees 4 more non Cup years.
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Post by jkr on Aug 23, 2023 16:36:18 GMT -5
Where do they find the cap space? They still have Nylander who's up in s year.
This kicks in a year from now,right?
I find the Leafs' stars have been playing them by taking these short term deals. Matthews & Marner both took 5 year terms on their last contracts. If they had done max term deals, Toronto would not be facing this situation for another 3 seasons.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 23, 2023 17:44:17 GMT -5
Where do they find the cap space? They still have Nylander who's up in s year. This kicks in a year from now,right? I find the Leafs' stars have been playing them by taking these short term deals. Matthews & Marner both took 5 year terms on their last contracts. If they had done max term deals, Toronto would not be facing this situation for another 3 seasons. It's all about the benjamins
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Post by folatre on Aug 23, 2023 18:01:44 GMT -5
Yeah, the new deal for Matthews starts in 2024-25. Well, he certainly did not do a team friendly deal. My brother in law texted me and said a $13.25 AAV would not trigger heartburn if the contract was 6-8 years, but four years is basically the franchise player deciding to turn the screws on the club.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 23, 2023 18:06:29 GMT -5
Yeah, the new deal for Matthews starts in 2024-25. Well, he certainly did not do a team friendly deal. My brother in law texted me and said a $13.25 AAV would not trigger heartburn if the contract was 6-8 years, but four years is basically the franchise player deciding to turn the screws on the club. Matthews? That ‘all for one and one for one’ guy? Screwing his team? Say it ain’t so.
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Post by Cranky on Aug 23, 2023 19:00:06 GMT -5
The Laffs are not going to get better and the cupboard has no dishes.
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Post by Polarice on Aug 24, 2023 6:33:42 GMT -5
Yeah, the new deal for Matthews starts in 2024-25. Well, he certainly did not do a team friendly deal. My brother in law texted me and said a $13.25 AAV would not trigger heartburn if the contract was 6-8 years, but four years is basically the franchise player deciding to turn the screws on the club. Matthews? That ‘all for one and one for one’ guy? Screwing his team? Say it ain’t so. Well.....we know he has no interest in winning a cup, if he did he would have accepted an offer that would actually help the team build a cup contender, like Crosby, Mackinnon, etc. Players usually wait until they actually win something before they hold out for that big payday.
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Post by jkr on Aug 24, 2023 7:30:43 GMT -5
He's only interested in being the highest paid player in the league despite only having one season where you might say that about him.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 24, 2023 14:41:33 GMT -5
He's only interested in being the highest paid player in the league despite only having one season where you might say that about him. I see him as very much a me, me, me kind of guy. Not publicly, as he'll say all the right things and he might get along well with teammates, but I'm not sure he's a guy who would sacrifice himself to put his team ahead. Just my opinion. I realize that sometimes, really good players end up on bad teams and don't win much but Matthews has been a Leaf for 7 seasons and they've won 1 series. Two WJC tournaments and he didn't get a gold, one season in the Swiss League with the regular season leader and they got beaten in the first round. Is he just really bad luck? This is why I was insistent that the Leafs should trade him. His teams seem to lose in the big moments.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Aug 26, 2023 14:52:09 GMT -5
... RIP M. Yvon Pedneault ...
(Kevin Frayer/The Canadian Press)
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Post by IamCanadiens on Aug 28, 2023 16:07:12 GMT -5
Frank Seravalli reporting that the Bruins have moved Hall and Foligno to Chicago, no salary retained. Hall's cap hit is 6 million. Foligno is UFA. I'm steamed. Chicago gifted Boston $6MM in CAP space for nothing. Hall is wasted. Foligno is a UFA. That's almost as bad as the Dach trade. I've been wracking my brain as to the rationale for acquiring Hall. Today I read online that it is to mentor Bedard. ?? I dunno, is this one of those don't do this because I did it and look where I ended up examples? Hall's time as a young player wasn't exactly known for living up to expectations, listening to coaches, being a team player or being humble. If I were developing Bedard, I'd keep him as far away from Hall as humanly possible. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
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Post by folatre on Aug 28, 2023 17:27:04 GMT -5
Man, I hear you. Hall has never exuded leadership or glue. I guess since they were basically getting him for nothing, Chicago just thinks a guy with first line hands and who still has good wheels can help Bedard. At least Hall can move the puck and not be tossing grenades at the rookie. However, I have no idea who the Blackhawks think their 1C and 2C are. I am presuming Bedard is not going to play centre as a 18 year old.
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Post by Tankdriver on Aug 29, 2023 8:02:45 GMT -5
Man, I hear you. Hall has never exuded leadership or glue. I guess since they were basically getting him for nothing, Chicago just thinks a guy with first line hands and who still has good wheels can help Bedard. At least Hall can move the puck and not be tossing grenades at the rookie. However, I have no idea who the Blackhawks think their 1C and 2C are. I am presuming Bedard is not going to play centre as a 18 year old. Let's offer them Dvorak in about 2 months.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 29, 2023 9:27:47 GMT -5
Man, I hear you. Hall has never exuded leadership or glue. I guess since they were basically getting him for nothing, Chicago just thinks a guy with first line hands and who still has good wheels can help Bedard. At least Hall can move the puck and not be tossing grenades at the rookie. However, I have no idea who the Blackhawks think their 1C and 2C are. I am presuming Bedard is not going to play centre as a 18 year old. Let's offer them Dvorak in about 2 months. This... isn't that where Dvorak is from?
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Post by Tankdriver on Aug 29, 2023 11:34:59 GMT -5
Let's offer them Dvorak in about 2 months. This... isn't that where Dvorak is from? Palos, Illinois, United States. They got a lot of second rounders n the next 3 drafts. We can take one of the lower ones in return.
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Post by seventeen on Aug 29, 2023 14:48:07 GMT -5
Man, I hear you. Hall has never exuded leadership or glue. I guess since they were basically getting him for nothing, Chicago just thinks a guy with first line hands and who still has good wheels can help Bedard. At least Hall can move the puck and not be tossing grenades at the rookie. However, I have no idea who the Blackhawks think their 1C and 2C are. I am presuming Bedard is not going to play centre as a 18 year old. I understand that Hall, while in Edmonton, wasn't exactly well liked. Now he's older and hopefully more mature, but still, the thinking that one player is going to 'teach' another is often overblown. You probably end up with as many bad habits as good ones.
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