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Post by jkr on Aug 30, 2023 16:00:42 GMT -5
Leafs give Keefe a 2 year extension. He's had 5 seasons in which he has a losing record in the playoffs and has won just one series. He only has one year left so Treliving could have canned him with little cost sometime this year.
Whatever Toronto.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 30, 2023 16:30:56 GMT -5
Leafs give Keefe a 2 year extension. He's had 5 seasons in which he has a losing record in the playoffs and has won just one series. He only has one year left so Treliving could have canned him with little cost sometime this year. Whatever Toronto. I'm sure there are 17 stories on sportsnet site about this |
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Post by folatre on Aug 30, 2023 17:52:52 GMT -5
Toronto has like five Assistant GMs, dozens of scouts and skill coaches, consultants galore, basically they do not worry about spending money. I mean, when they canned Babcock he was still owed $30 million USD, so MLSE seemingly sees what most corporations would construe as wasting money as being the cost of doing business.
What I am curious about is whether Shanahan and Treliving are actually sold on Keefe. Because money is just money. Commitment is something else. If Toronto cannot at least advance to the Eastern Conference Finals, would the front office actually decide steady as she goes, we have total faith in our guy?
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Post by seventeen on Aug 30, 2023 18:37:14 GMT -5
I think MLSE is paying a bit more attention to money lately. Edward Rogers, once his coup d'etat of Rogers was completed has emphasized Bean Counting. As Rogers owns 37.5% of MLSE they carry a certain clout. Nonethess, the Leafs are MLSE's star franchise, so they probably have a blanker cheque than Toronto FC, for example. I wouldn't have extended Keefe, but that's me. Maybe Matthews gave him a letter of commendation. Well, Mike Sullivan can breathe a little easier now.   |
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Post by jkr on Aug 30, 2023 18:54:38 GMT -5
Your right folatre, they don't seem to care about dollars. But what they dont seem to realize is that spending freely and throwing money around on coaches, players and staff is not working . Jeez, if they are not committed to Keefe then dont extend him. It's bad business and just plain stupid.
The most successful team in the MLSE stable is the team that probably gets the least amount of money- the Argonauts who have won 3 Grey Cups since 2012.
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Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Sept 16, 2023 20:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Sept 17, 2023 19:56:56 GMT -5
Babcock is out before camp opens. Officially he 'resigned,' but it already sounds like a poorly kept secret that Columbus is actually paying him the majority (two-thirdish) of his contract in a damage-control operation.
One really has to wonder how in the world Kekalainen keeps his job. I know in the small market environment, ownership has been rather forgiving of his poor overall record at the helm. But embarrassing the organization and flushing a few million dollars down the toilet may have the McConnell family fuming.
Regarding Babcock, the guy really seems short on common sense in human relations (Habs fans can look back with consternation about Therrien and his abysmal man management skills). After everything that came out after his exits from Detroit and Toronto, why in the world was he asking players to let him look through their phones?
Pascal Vincent now steps into a somewhat uncomfortable situation and a potentially divided room. I am happy for him to land a HC job and hope he does well.
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Post by jkr on Sept 17, 2023 20:22:50 GMT -5
Hey Johnny Gaudreau, want a do over?
No worries man, it's only 6 more years.
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Post by folatre on Oct 2, 2023 19:54:18 GMT -5
Maybe nothing other-worldly in this news, but kind of odd nevertheless, Anaheim and Zegras do not manage to get anything done long-term, which seems curious given this is a kid who has posted two straight 60+ point seasons and is a marketing darling for the league.
Considering the Ducks have cap space in spades, what held up a long-term commitment? Was Zegras asking for $9.5-10 per to sign for 7-8 years? Or does Patty Verbeek think Zegras is a softish kid who does not even warrant 8x8?
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Post by jkr on Oct 3, 2023 10:56:57 GMT -5
I saw this news about Zegras too. I was immediately puzzled . Why are guys like Killorn & Henrique making more than this guy? He's the type that you want to lock up long term.
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 9, 2023 16:06:55 GMT -5
Jets in a free spending mode. 😮
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Post by NWTHabsFan on Oct 9, 2023 16:08:38 GMT -5
And Buffalo definitely opened the vaults here.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 9, 2023 17:00:42 GMT -5
Jets in a free spending mode. 😮 Might be ok up to year 3... they will not age well Doesn’t look like Scheiffele gets any signing or performance bonus and no type of NTC Helleybuck get a 5 mill signing bonus year 1 and has at least a modified ntc in each year |
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Post by jkr on Oct 9, 2023 20:57:16 GMT -5
Jets in a free spending mode. 😮 Might be ok up to year 3... they will not age well Doesn’t look like Scheiffele gets any signing or performance bonus and no type of NTC Helleybuck get a 5 mill signing bonus year 1 and has at least a modified ntc in each year 8 years each for a pair of 30 year olds & one is a goalie. Havent they looked at the Price situation? Dahlin is getting better each season but wow. This makes him one of the highest paid D men in the league. |
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Post by franko on Oct 9, 2023 21:27:18 GMT -5
8 years each for a pair of 30 year olds & one is a goalie. Havent they looked at the Price situation? ya, I think they have, 3 or 4 good years, then LTIR. neither of them walks and they make their fans happy. |
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Post by Cranky on Oct 9, 2023 22:54:20 GMT -5
I guess BargainBin spread his unhinged signing virus to other GMs.
Very few players are productive in their late 30s.
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Post by folatre on Oct 10, 2023 16:25:45 GMT -5
Dahlin has really blossomed and now there is no disputing that he is a legit 1D. But $11 million per is steep, so Buffalo needs to hope the kid is literally among the top 3-5 d-men in the league. In reality, the Sabres surely regret not getting him locked up long-term coming out of his ELC. Tying this back to other recent signing news, I wonder if Verbeek down the road is going to regret not signing Zegras long-term if the kid proves to be a stud and his next contract is $10+ AAV.
Hellebuyck and Scheiffele's contracts will not age well, but hey the Jets have the cap space and Chevaldayoff did not want to have the gun to his head all season with those guys as pending UFAs. And who knows, maybe Chevaldayoff promised the players that he would trade them after the season if they do not see the Jets headed in the right direction.
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Post by seventeen on Oct 10, 2023 22:22:55 GMT -5
If the CAP is $88MM next year then Dahlin makes up 12.5% of Buffalo's CAP. That's not unusual for a stud, core piece, is it? If the CAP continues to go up, that contract will get better.
I was just watching TSN's season preview show (because I love to disagree with the pundits). Habs have been picked 8th. Maybe I'm projecting in too much of a positive fashion, but something the pundits didn't point out and it depends on how well they progress, but we could easily have the best centre core in the Atlantic, maybe in the top 5 overall. Hear me out.
Dach is looking really good; Suzuki seems to be able to put up points when he has guys who can finish to play with; Monahan was always a 1B type centre and if he stays healthy he's on the 3rd line!; Evans is ok, but we have a spare centre, Newhook, who I expect to take a leap while he's on wing. On top of that we have Owen Beck who could make the team next season. It's a stacked centre, if the kids keep getting better.
I noticed that centre thing when the TSN guys brought up Ottawa's line-up. Norris is hurt and Pinto isn't signed and they would change things, but right now they have an elite guy on the first line (offensively at least) in Stutzle. Their #2 centre is Ridley Grieg who played in the AHL last year and put up 29 points in 39 games with a -14. I expect him to be a solid 3c, much like Beck, but he's 21 and they expect him to be their 2C? At 3, the TSN guys have Rourke Chartier, a 27 year old AHL'r and their 4th line (if he gets any ice time) is centred by Mark Kastelic. Let's just call a spade a spade and Kastelic is a goon. I doubt Norris is coming back any time soon and they badly need to sign Pinto. At least if he slots in on the 2nd line, they have a solid 2 lines. The forward depth is weak. They're really counting on that D (which could be very good) and Korpisalo in goal.
I might have overestimated Ottawa.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 12, 2023 13:54:51 GMT -5
If the CAP is $88MM next year then Dahlin makes up 12.5% of Buffalo's CAP. That's not unusual for a stud, core piece, is it? If the CAP continues to go up, that contract will get better. I was just watching TSN's season preview show (because I love to disagree with the pundits). Habs have been picked 8th. Maybe I'm projecting in too much of a positive fashion, but something the pundits didn't point out and it depends on how well they progress, but we could easily have the best centre core in the Atlantic, maybe in the top 5 overall. Hear me out. Dach is looking really good; Suzuki seems to be able to put up points when he has guys who can finish to play with; Monahan was always a 1B type centre and if he stays healthy he's on the 3rd line!; Evans is ok, but we have a spare centre, Newhook, who I expect to take a leap while he's on wing. On top of that we have Owen Beck who could make the team next season. It's a stacked centre, if the kids keep getting better. I noticed that centre thing when the TSN guys brought up Ottawa's line-up. Norris is hurt and Pinto isn't signed and they would change things, but right now they have an elite guy on the first line (offensively at least) in Stutzle. Their #2 centre is Ridley Grieg who played in the AHL last year and put up 29 points in 39 games with a -14. I expect him to be a solid 3c, much like Beck, but he's 21 and they expect him to be their 2C? At 3, the TSN guys have Rourke Chartier, a 27 year old AHL'r and their 4th line (if he gets any ice time) is centred by Mark Kastelic. Let's just call a spade a spade and Kastelic is a goon. I doubt Norris is coming back any time soon and they badly need to sign Pinto. At least if he slots in on the 2nd line, they have a solid 2 lines. The forward depth is weak. They're really counting on that D (which could be very good) and Korpisalo in goal. I might have overestimated Ottawa. They have Chabot, Chychrun and Sanderson in D... chyc is injury prone, Chabot plays too many minutes that makes him mistake prone and Sanderson is raw |
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Post by seventeen on Oct 12, 2023 14:59:16 GMT -5
Good points, Willie. That D may not work as well as expected, depending on injuries, of course.
Was listening to a podcast this morning and there was considerable joking about the Leafs and that it's so good to be able to score 'at will' and that will win you a lot of games. Except in the playoffs, of course. There wasn't the slightest mention of the giant sized flaws that a young Habs team highlighted on the the Leafs. A decent, disciplined, less than raw NHL team would have beaten the Leafs 5-1 last night. But the centre of the universe pundits can't see that. Good.
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Post by Willie Dog on Oct 12, 2023 15:48:02 GMT -5
Good points, Willie. That D may not work as well as expected, depending on injuries, of course. Was listening to a podcast this morning and there was considerable joking about the Leafs and that it's so good to be able to score 'at will' and that will win you a lot of games. Except in the playoffs, of course. There wasn't the slightest mention of the giant sized flaws that a young Habs team highlighted on the the Leafs. A decent, disciplined, less than raw NHL team would have beaten the Leafs 5-1 last night. But the centre of the universe pundits can't see that. Good. Yes it is good because when it blows up in their face they all look like David Savard... gobsmacked |
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Post by folatre on Oct 12, 2023 19:40:46 GMT -5
Wow, I feel bad for Werenski who missed virtually all of last season with a knee injury; tonight Hathaway (Flyers) on the forecheck delivered a dirty knee to knee hit on him. I cannot believe the refs did not call that a major.
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