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Post by folatre on Jun 15, 2023 19:29:58 GMT -5
Well, there were a few items (Caufield signing, Provorov trade, Gavrikov signing, etc.) here and there during the playoffs. But with SCF wrapping up a couple days ago, there should be a flurry of activity commencing.
Today New Jersey got Bratt signed for 8 years/$7.875 AAV. I think this is a fair deal for a skilled, fast, play-driving winger.
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Post by folatre on Jun 16, 2023 6:40:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I did a double take when I saw that name yesterday. It is actually an AHLer who was already in the Stars organization.
It will be interesting to see what Toronto does with Murray. I think a buyout makes the most sense because trading him would require parting with a nice asset because in a cap tight league who the heck is going to take a guy carrying a almost a $5M AAV?
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Post by jkr on Jun 16, 2023 9:06:58 GMT -5
I didnt do my homework. I saw the name Murray & jumped to conclusions. Thanks for pointing it out. I've deleted the post.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 16, 2023 13:04:42 GMT -5
Well, there were a few items (Caufield signing, Provorov trade, Gavrikov signing, etc.) here and there during the playoffs. But with SCF wrapping up a couple days ago, there should be a flurry of activity commencing. Today New Jersey got Bratt signed for 8 years/$7.875 AAV. I think this is a fair deal for a skilled, fast, play-driving winger. There's a risk in the contract market today that hasn't received it's due. It feels to me like there's been an increase in scoring. Going back 3 seasons (and I realize Covid is in there and that might distort these stats. I prorated the 56 game season), the top 10 scorers averaged 104 points in 20/21, 108.3 in 21/22 and 114.7 in 22/23. So if GM's are paying almost 8MM per season for a 73 point player, should they not be marching it back because it's easier to score this season than it was in 20/21? Scoring is up 10.3% from the latter. In 20/21, producing at the same level, Bratt would have put up 66 points, not a huge amount less, but still, how much less is a 66 point scorer worth from a 73 point scorer? Yeah, I'm being picky, but scoring is definitely up and the CAP is not up the corresponding amount. I think players should screw owners as much as possible (I'm not a financial socialist but most NHL owners could lay a claim to roachness), but the bottom line is that it costs the fans eventually, so that's my point. |
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Post by jkr on Jun 17, 2023 5:14:52 GMT -5
Canucks buy out Ekman-Larsson. According to CBC, Vancouver will pay him 19 million over the next 8 years.
They must have really wanted him gone.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 17, 2023 14:07:11 GMT -5
Canucks buy out Ekman-Larsson. According to CBC, Vancouver will pay him 19 million over the next 8 years. They must have really wanted him gone. He's been a black hole - A shadow of his former self, which was overblown somewhat because he was one of the few good players in Phoenix. He's lost a couple of steps so was spending a lot of time in his own end. The Canucks really needed some CAP space and the way the CAP system works in OEL's case, the CAP cost next year is just under $500K. that frees up almost $7MM for the Canucks and they badly need it for next year. OEL's buyout hurts the following 2 years at around $4.1MM, but other contracts start to come off the books and the CAP should go up. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 17, 2023 21:13:29 GMT -5
Even phoenix is being hit wit cap penalties on this one!
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Post by folatre on Jun 17, 2023 22:00:39 GMT -5
Ekman-Larsson is nothing more than a sheltered 3rd pair guy at this stage of his NHL career, if he even wants to continue in the league.
Benning was a disaster. He makes Bergevin looks like a borderline genius. Though, honestly, I am not sure what the current Canucks management is doing, since the balance of it all seems rather confused.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 18, 2023 0:02:20 GMT -5
Ekman-Larsson is nothing more than a sheltered 3rd pair guy at this stage of his NHL career, if he even wants to continue in the league. Benning was a disaster. He makes Bergevin looks like a borderline genius. Though, honestly, I am not sure what the current Canucks management is doing, since the balance of it all seems rather confused. It's always been my opinion that Rutherford won 3 cups with a truckload of horseshoes. The 06 canes don't even get past the Habs in the first round if Montreal doesn't lose Koivu. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 18, 2023 7:14:39 GMT -5
Ekman-Larsson is nothing more than a sheltered 3rd pair guy at this stage of his NHL career, if he even wants to continue in the league. Benning was a disaster. He makes Bergevin looks like a borderline genius. Though, honestly, I am not sure what the current Canucks management is doing, since the balance of it all seems rather confused. It's always been my opinion that Rutherford won 3 cups with a truckload of horseshoes. The 06 canes don't even get past the Habs in the first round if Montreal doesn't lose Koivu. You and just about every Hab fan... |
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Post by jkr on Jun 23, 2023 6:42:11 GMT -5
Looks like, despite the coaching change, that Toffoli wants out of Calgary.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 23, 2023 12:04:03 GMT -5
I don't want Calgary to be Soooooo bad that they fall into the bottom 10 of the league in 2025. Eleventh last is fine.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 23, 2023 15:07:02 GMT -5
I don't want Calgary to be Soooooo bad that they fall into the bottom 10 of the league in 2025. Eleventh last is fine. Lol... |
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Post by Skilly on Jun 23, 2023 17:11:20 GMT -5
I don't want Calgary to be Soooooo bad that they fall into the bottom 10 of the league in 2025. Eleventh last is fine. All depends on Florida … if Calgary does not get Florida’s R1 2025 pick (lottery protected) , then we only won’t receive Calgary’s pick if it’s first overall. Then we can get it from #2 to #10 As a side note, if Calgary does not get Florida’s 2025 pick, and they possess the #1 pick in 2025, then MTL gets a 2025 3rd rounder and the best of Calgary’s and Florida’s 1 round picks in 2026 (not lottery protected) |
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Post by folatre on Jun 24, 2023 10:00:10 GMT -5
It is crazy what is going on in Calgary. They have a small core, though debatable how desirable it is, signed long-term. But they are basically in the same position as Winnipeg (i.e. a bunch of key guys who will be UFA in July 2024). Neither club seems comfortable with a genuine rebuild.
I suppose the main difference is that Chevaldayoff has had more time to anticipate the situation and, hopefully for Jets fans, engage in serious strategic planning. I think Craig Conroy has been caught off guard by all these guys saying they want out.
This week I heard some of the Insiders speculating on whether Chicago feels some obligation for Bedard's sake to attempt to ice a more respectable lineup this season. Maybe a vanilla middle-six centre like Dvorak could interest them since hey after all he is a lot better than the AHL-NHL tweeners they have been throwing out there. And he is a Chicago-area native. Dvorak's current value on the market is modest (unlike when Arizona took Bergevin to the cleaners), but I would not complain about something like Tampa's second rounder for Dvorak and a fourth or fifth round pick.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 24, 2023 11:58:29 GMT -5
It is crazy what is going on in Calgary. They have a small core, though debatable how desirable it is, signed long-term. But they are basically in the same position as Winnipeg (i.e. a bunch of key guys who will be UFA in July 2024). Neither club seems comfortable with a genuine rebuild. I suppose the main difference is that Chevaldayoff has had more time to anticipate the situation and, hopefully for Jets fans, engage in serious strategic planning. I think Craig Conroy has been caught off guard by all these guys saying they want out. This week I heard some of the Insiders speculating on whether Chicago feels some obligation for Bedard's sake to attempt to ice a more respectable lineup this season. Maybe a vanilla middle-six centre like Dvorak could interest them since hey after all he is a lot better than the AHL-NHL tweeners they have been throwing out there. And he is a Chicago-area native. Dvorak's current value on the market is modest (unlike when Arizona took Bergevin to the cleaners), but I would not complain about something like Tampa's second rounder for Dvorak and a fourth or fifth round pick. I wonder if they wish the had kept Dach |
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Post by jkr on Jun 24, 2023 18:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by Tankdriver on Jun 24, 2023 18:43:53 GMT -5
And Gally is a free agent on July 1st so the avs traded nothing and ot a player at half his salary.
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Post by folatre on Jun 24, 2023 18:48:21 GMT -5
It sounds like Trotz must really think Johansen is a junk player and junk teammate because he just gave him to Colorado for nothing in return. And not only that, but Nashville retained 50 percent for two seasons.
I think Johansen fell off the cliff, so I get it that Nashville could care less about keeping him. But if Colorado, a contender, is willing to take a chance on him, even his much-diminished state, can be a stop gap 2C, then why the heck did Trotz at least not get a second or third rounder for helping out the Avalanche by eating all that money? Nashville is not a very good team and they have a ton of cap space, so why were they that desperate to get half of Johansen's cap hit off the books?
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Post by jkr on Jun 24, 2023 18:51:58 GMT -5
And Gally is a free agent on July 1st so the avs traded nothing and ot a player at half his salary. LOL. Trotz has one week to convince AG to sign with Nashville.  Why is Trotz so eager to part with Johansen? |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 24, 2023 19:19:24 GMT -5
Galchy has made 24.5M US in his career...
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Post by PTH on Jun 25, 2023 1:16:08 GMT -5
... so why were they that desperate to get half of Johansen's cap hit off the books? That's a damn good question. Is he a cancer on the room? |
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Post by Andrew on Jun 25, 2023 12:43:53 GMT -5
What the heck is going on in Philly? Details of two trades leaked yesterday both of which seem to have fallen apart (Hayes for Krug + other pieces from both sides & Deangelo to Carolina). Not a great start for rookie GM Briere.
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Post by jkr on Jun 25, 2023 16:23:20 GMT -5
Durzi traded by Kings to Arizona for a 2nd. Looks like it happened yesterday.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2023 19:26:01 GMT -5
And Gally is a free agent on July 1st so the avs traded nothing and ot a player at half his salary. LOL. Trotz has one week to convince AG to sign with Nashville. Why is Trotz so eager to part with Johansen? This is an interesting situation. A lot of good points were made. 1) Has Johansen fallen off a cliff and if so, why would the Avs want him, even at $4MM per season? 2) Is Trotz a dolt and is making a rookie mistake? Even with David Poile advising him in the early stages? 3) Was the extra CAP space needed? (Nashville has $19.5MM in CAP space but lots of cheap expiring contracts next year). 4) Did Trotz simply not like Johansen as a player? Hmmmmm. Nashville doesn't have a lot of talent right now. (Josi, Duchene, Novak, Forsberg, Glass, Fabbro and Saros). Remind me if I've missed anyone and it should be noted Josi is 33, Duchene is 32, Forsberg will be 29), They have two firsts, two seconds and 3 thirds this year and have to make room for Tomasino, Askarov, and Evangelista. Not that that should be a problem, given the players they have been using. Also, coming soon to an arena near you, will be LUke Prokop, Fedor Svechkov (If he isn't drafted by the Red Army), Zach L'Heureux and Joakim Kemell. If Nashville has a good draft, they could add another 2 to 3 players from this year to their roster. They hold the 15th and 24th picks. None of that really answers why Trotz moved Johansen for nothing but CAP space. My gut feel is he didn't like him as a player. I paid attention to him when Nashville was on and it seems he's another victim of the NHL speeding up. He can't quite get where he needs to be, when he needs to be there. It might be that McFarland has made the mistake. |
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Post by seventeen on Jun 25, 2023 19:26:46 GMT -5
Durzi traded by Kings to Arizona for a 2nd. Looks like it happened yesterday. LA is freeing up CAP space for someone from Winnipeg. Is it PLD or is it Helly? |
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Post by jkr on Jun 26, 2023 8:59:43 GMT -5
TSN had a segment on the Flames this morning. Now Hanifin, with one year left, has said he will not re-sign.
I thought players were balking at playing for Sutter but there must be other issues.
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Post by seventeen on Jun 26, 2023 13:38:11 GMT -5
TSN had a segment on the Flames this morning. Now Hanifin, with one year left, has said he will not re-sign. I thought players were balking at playing for Sutter but there must be other issues. Lots of American players wanting to go back to the US. Unless there are family issues, it tells me something about their values. Don't like something about Canadian cities? Opting out? How are you going to react when you're faced with a REALLY tough challenge? |
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Post by jkr on Jun 26, 2023 13:46:16 GMT -5
Doesn't explain Toffoli though.
I think this is more about Calagary than Canada
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Post by Willie Dog on Jun 26, 2023 15:14:46 GMT -5
Doesn't explain Toffoli though. I think this is more about Calagary than Canada Toffoli didn't want to leave montreal... |
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