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Post by Tankdriver on May 6, 2024 21:40:44 GMT -5
Hypothetical trade offer: Winnipeg and next year's florida/Calgary pick to move into top 15. Would you do it?
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Post by Cranky on May 6, 2024 21:52:01 GMT -5
What I'm hoping is to use the late 1sts and our extra defenseman and vets to get underperforming players like Kakko, Kaliyev, Frost, etc. Or whatever we can get to bolster top 6 potential.
We can keep churning the bottom hoping to keep adding NHL potential prospects or we can accelerate by trading our picks for NHL ready players who are underperforming.
Let's say we draft Lindstrom. Then Kakko/Kaliyev are excellent top 9 addons. Pushing out players like Anderson, Gally, Dvorak...
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Post by seventeen on May 6, 2024 21:56:59 GMT -5
Man, Skilly, I hope you are right. I'd be thrilled too but I just can't see him dropping like Michkov with all that elite skill, his the reported good attitude and a strong all around game. Regardless, all reports point to a crapshoot after Celebrini so it'll be a very entertaining draft. Basu is convinced Chicago will take Demidov if he's available. The Hawks need D as well, but I can see the allure with Bedard. It would be like McDavid and Draisaitl (who still haven't won a cup because they haven't had the dominant defenceman). |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 6, 2024 21:57:30 GMT -5
Hypothetical trade offer: Winnipeg and next year's florida/Calgary pick to move into top 15. Would you do it? I would... if we could snag Lindstrom and Iginla/Catton... wow |
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Post by seventeen on May 6, 2024 22:00:21 GMT -5
I would use Winny's pick and one of our D. Use a strength to fix a weakness. the D would have to be someone like Mailloux or Struble or (if I had my way) Matheson.
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Post by folatre on May 6, 2024 22:39:53 GMT -5
Too many unknowns about Calgary's ownership's views on whether they will allow Conroy to 'tank' or whether the Flames will sort of muddle around.
Even assuming we are talking about a late 2024 first rounder (Winnipeg's) and late 2025 first rounder (Florida's), I would not pay both to move into the mid teens range in the 2024 draft.
I would give up the Winnipeg first, Barron or Harris, and mid round pick in order to move up into that middle of the 2024 first round. However, I believe that Iginla will go in the top 10 and even if Catton is a 2024 victim of the 'small kid' dropping, I doubt he drops lower than #12.
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Post by habsorbed on May 6, 2024 23:45:44 GMT -5
I guess media think the guy who bought the yotes is a fool with money to waste And is Dubois the sort of famous name that would draw Utah fans?  Most "expansion" teams want a player with name recognition, usually an over the hill vet: Fleury or Perry. Or maybe go after Stamkos - that would be a splash. But PLD? I don't think so. Then again, maybe they could somehow convince the Leafs to let go of Reaves.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 6:40:00 GMT -5
I guess media think the guy who bought the yotes is a fool with money to waste Then again, maybe they could somehow convince the Leafs to let go of Reaves. If that happens we have an Anderson Gallagher and dvorak for you |
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Post by IamCanadiens on May 7, 2024 14:40:25 GMT -5
I'll offer up my sincerest hope that that your balls drop tonight!
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Post by Skilly on May 7, 2024 15:22:12 GMT -5
I still got Demidov going at #5 I just got a feeling I, however, do not have him falling to 6th |
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Post by Skilly on May 7, 2024 15:25:34 GMT -5
I really hope this supposed leak is someone horsing around. Because if this is true, the NHL will come across as a bigger joke of a league than what everyone already thinks it is.
Rigged to help Utah, so Montreal can't land Demidov ... if Utah selects second, they take Demidov. And maybe that's why MacKenzie has him at #2, because he also knew the draft lottery result 🤷♂️
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 16:52:57 GMT -5
I really hope this supposed leak is someone horsing around. Because if this is true, the NHL will come across as a bigger joke of a league than what everyone already thinks it is. Rigged to help Utah, so Montreal can't land Demidov ... if Utah selects second, they take Demidov. And maybe that's why MacKenzie has him at #2, because he also knew the draft lottery result 🤷♂️ They have to help out the Utah Sister Wives, he paid big bucks to solve Bettmans "disaster in the desert" TM... |
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Post by IamCanadiens on May 7, 2024 17:49:40 GMT -5
5 aint so bad
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2024 17:50:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately Chicago is still in the running.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 17:51:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately Chicago is still in the running. They'll get it... big market |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 17:54:19 GMT -5
Sj with 2 picks in the 1st... talk about helping the rebuild
1st and 14th
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 17:55:49 GMT -5
At least Grier didn't have a Saperlipopette eating grin like Oilers GMs
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Post by Tankdriver on May 7, 2024 18:00:05 GMT -5
I guess the positive side is we didn't drop to 6 or 7th. Wished we would of got either 1 or 2 though.
I am wondering what it would cost to move up to 1 2 or 3 and get the guy we want and not wait and select best of the rest.
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Post by folatre on May 7, 2024 18:00:40 GMT -5
So the order this year stayed precisely the same as the pre-lottery order?
Thank God Chicago did not win it. And in general I prefer Celebrini is not in the East, in particular it would have been gross if Ottawa or Buffalo scored a miracle this evening.
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Post by IamCanadiens on May 7, 2024 18:12:57 GMT -5
The 5th overall pick will be a good core piece in a few years time. Now it's time for the scouts to make their money and get the BPA in the long term. Hoping for the best.
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2024 18:15:51 GMT -5
Five is good. I’d be really curious to see the lists of the other 3 teams ahead of us. San Jose has drafted a lot of forwards recently but not many Dmen. Celebrini and Smith (+ Bystedt) fill out the centre needs. Hawks need everything of course. Anaheim probably goes with defense. Columbus? Could go either way. If they go for a centre, it might make Sillinger expendable and he’s a guy I’d be interested in, using the Jets pick as part of the deal. It’s Columbus and they’re keen on change. Kent Johnson is another but Sillinger is bigger.
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Post by folatre on May 7, 2024 18:16:21 GMT -5
I continue to believe that Demidov and Levshunov will go #2-3, which makes me wonder what a team without a GM (Columbus) wants to do at #4. I would assume their organization feels like they have their 1C (Fantilli) of the future. Do they believe Johnson is a center? Have the last couple seasons perhaps changed their internal assessment about whether Jiricek will develop into a top-pair quality two-way stud as he matures? I wonder if John Davidson just goes with his gut call and does something unexpected here like Iginla.
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 18:16:37 GMT -5
I guess the positive side is we didn't drop to 6 or 7th. Wished we would of got either 1 or 2 though. I am wondering what it would cost to move up to 1 2 or 3 and get the guy we want and not wait and select best of the rest. Be interesting to see if the Hawks take Demidov or a D man, in their top 10 prospects they have 2 D, 2 goalies and 6 forwards |
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2024 18:19:53 GMT -5
I guess the positive side is we didn't drop to 6 or 7th. Wished we would of got either 1 or 2 though. I am wondering what it would cost to move up to 1 2 or 3 and get the guy we want and not wait and select best of the rest. Given the number and quality the Dmen in the draft we may get the guy Hughes wants anyway. |
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Post by seventeen on May 7, 2024 18:35:20 GMT -5
I continue to believe that Demidov and Levshunov will go #2-3, which makes me wonder what a team without a GM (Columbus) wants to do at #4. I would assume their organization feels like they have their 1C (Fantilli) of the future. Do they believe Johnson is a center? Have the last couple seasons perhaps changed their internal assessment about whether Jiricek will develop into a top-pair quality two-way stud as he matures? I wonder if John Davidson just goes with his gut call and does something unexpected here like Iginla. Those are the 2 I think go 2-3 as well. And then what does Columbus do? Their defense is solid enough and they have Mateychuk and Jiricek so I think they go for a forward. The top ones left are Lindstrom, Iginla and Catton. I did hear (McKenzie?) that Columbus was the team that had Sennecke ranked in the top 5. |
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Post by folatre on May 7, 2024 18:43:44 GMT -5
I do not think Sillinger is ever going to be a 60+ point guy. I like him, though. And I think Columbus probably likes him too. With a new GM coming in without much time to settle in and evaluate, I have a feeling no precipitous decisions will be made about any of their young players.
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Post by folatre on May 7, 2024 18:46:37 GMT -5
I heard something crazy to the effect that if Anaheim does not take a future top pair RHD that Patty Verbeek absolutely loves Helenius. That would be a shocker.
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Post by IamCanadiens on May 7, 2024 19:00:29 GMT -5
Given the range of player preferences, I can't help but wonder if there will be a lot of draft day trades as team will be willing to move in both directions to get their guys but not until it is time to make the pick. I love how unpredictable the first 10 picks are. I can see several prospects sliding like Caufield did.
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Post by Cranky on May 7, 2024 19:03:19 GMT -5
It's time to make a serious hockey trade and bring home our home boy. Our 5th for Dubois.  |
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Post by Willie Dog on May 7, 2024 19:07:31 GMT -5
Given the range of player preferences, I can't help but wonder if there will be a lot of draft day trades as team will be willing to move in both directions to get their guys but not until it is time to make the pick. I love how unpredictable the first 10 picks are. I can see several prospects sliding like Caufield did. Check out Bakulas latest draft ranking in the Draft Ranking thread |
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Most "expansion" teams want a player with name recognition, usually an over the hill vet: Fleury or Perry. Or maybe go after Stamkos - that would be a splash. But PLD? I don't think so. 
