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Post by folatre on Jul 15, 2024 20:35:33 GMT -5
Thanks to Rob Blake's bungling of the roster and cap situation for many years, LA could not give Byfield enough money to lock him up long-term. Instead, the deal is relatively high AAV for a medium-term commitment (5 years/$6.25 per). So basically the Kings only managed to buy one UFA year and yet are capped out with no wiggle room and not exactly a strong looking roster. A smart front office would have planned ahead and gotten the kid signed to 8x8. Robitaille and Blake (and Bergevin) are something, but it is not smart.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 16, 2024 0:49:40 GMT -5
Thanks to Rob Blake's bungling of the roster and cap situation for many years, LA could not give Byfield enough money to lock him up long-term. Instead, the deal is relatively high AAV for a medium-term commitment (5 years/$6.25 per). So basically the Kings only managed to buy one UFA year and yet are capped out with no wiggle room and not exactly a strong looking roster. A smart front office would have planned ahead and gotten the kid signed to 8x8. Robitaille and Blake (and Bergevin) are something, but it is not smart. Not to disregard this deal bit they still have Valiyev and a very good defenceman that are also RFA that need deals. The Kings only had about 9 million in space for all 3. Guess they shouldn't have overpaid for Edmunson as a free agent. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 16, 2024 8:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 16, 2024 20:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Jul 16, 2024 20:50:38 GMT -5
I can't believe the Rangers would put Trouba on waivers. He's got 2 years left and as far as I know he is not problem in the room. They are not going to give him away.
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Post by folatre on Jul 16, 2024 21:31:32 GMT -5
This sounds like Dolan blaming Trouba for the Rangers losing to the Panthers and giving his minion, Drury, orders to force him out no matter how foolish or bad the optics.
Look, I do not have a lot of time for Trouba at that cap hit or his greasy game (if he was in Montreal rather than with Bettman's favorite team since childhood, his gray area elbows would become black and white head hunting and he would get long suspensions). But I think the Rangers are making a mistake if this is true. I doubt anyone claims him because everyone knows this is family matter for him and no way he buys into the change of scenery. And Drury (Dolan) is pumping toxic fumes into the dressing room there because Trouba's mates actually like him and on the heels of dealing another popular mate (Goodrow) dirty, I really wonder if New York can afford more toxicity infecting the ranks.
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 16, 2024 22:45:32 GMT -5
The Rangers don't meed to trade him this year. It is next year where they want his 8 million cap space. Laf becomes a RFA, Kakko again and De'Andre Miller.
Also I think Trouba's wife is in her last year of residency / 8 month old kid so you can see why he doesn't want to waive.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 17, 2024 1:42:27 GMT -5
I can't believe the Rangers would put Trouba on waivers. He's got 2 years left and as far as I know he is not problem in the room. They are not going to give him away. I don't think it would be hard to work out a deal with San Jose, put Trouba on waivers, have them claim him and then San Hose sends NY the players they wanted for in return for some 7th round pick a few years ago. Not hard to get around if it's the Sharks you're sending him to. I think it's been done before by...hallelujah, the Rangers. |
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Post by folatre on Jul 17, 2024 17:16:32 GMT -5
I am surprised that Kuznetsov mutually terminated his contract (unless he knew he was about to fail another drug test) with Carolina. I know he picked up his July 1 bonus for $2 million, but still he left $6 million in real cash on the table. Based on my limited awareness of the KHL, I think the Jagr days of crazy salaries is long gone, so it is curious that Kuznetsov did not just line up his KHL deal for 2025-26.
Man, Carolina has witnessed a more than significant exodus of roster players and many of the departed were major pieces.
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Post by jkr on Jul 17, 2024 18:46:32 GMT -5
I have to pay more attention. I didn't even know that Goodrow was back in SJ.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 17, 2024 19:43:33 GMT -5
I am surprised that Kuznetsov mutually terminated his contract (unless he knew he was about to fail another drug test) with Carolina. I know he picked up his July 1 bonus for $2 million, but still he left $6 million in real cash on the table. Based on my limited awareness of the KHL, I think the Jagr days of crazy salaries is long gone, so it is curious that Kuznetsov did not just line up his KHL deal for 2025-26. Man, Carolina has witnessed a more than significant exodus of roster players and many of the departed were major pieces. I wouldn't want to play for Tom Dundon either. Carolina has real trouble retaining players and it's part of the overall strategy of the team. The key part to make that strategy work is a full pipeline of young, cheap talent to replace the guys departing. They don't have anyone coming in capable of replacing Guentzel or Pesce. They hope Nikishin can replace Pesce but being an excellent dman in a watered down KHL is not the same as eating up 20-25 minutes a game in the NHL. They'll be net down on that replacement and be 100% down on Guentzel's loss. It's an ideal theoretical strategy, but it is difficult to execute on. |
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Post by folatre on Jul 25, 2024 19:40:29 GMT -5
Konecny, one year out from UFA status, has re-signed with Philadelphia -- 8 years/$70 million. I like Konecny and I acknowledge that he held a lot of cards as a looming UFA who just put up consecutive seasons with 30 goals and nearly a point a game, plus he is feisty and a leader on that team. So not keeping him would have been hard for that organization and fan base to swallow. However, that is really a rich contract for a winger who is not going to get better (the contract starts at age 28) and has a career high of 33 goals and 68 points.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 26, 2024 1:06:46 GMT -5
Konecny, one year out from UFA status, has re-signed with Philadelphia -- 8 years/$70 million. I like Konecny and I acknowledge that he held a lot of cards as a looming UFA who just put up consecutive seasons with 30 goals and nearly a point a game, plus he is feisty and a leader on that team. So not keeping him would have been hard for that organization and fan base to swallow. However, that is really a rich contract for a winger who is not going to get better (the contract starts at age 28) and has a career high of 33 goals and 68 points. Daniel Briere started off his GM career seemingly well, with Michkov being available at 7, but he's not looked great since. Having the Cutter Gauthier debacle was kind of a red flag and it's unlikely that Jamie Drysdale was enough of a return for the highly regarded Gauthier, though that will play out in time. His contract negotiating does not appear nearly as skilful as Hughes'. Kent has had a lot of experience negotiating contracts and Briere not so much. The contracts for Coutourier, Sanheim and now Konecny may not age well.. Coutourier at $7/75MM has another 6 years left and he'll be 32 in December. Owen Tippett was signed at $6.2MM on an 8 year term for a 50 point scorer. Sanheim is paid $6.35MM for another 7 years. That's a lot of money for a number of slightly above average players. It's Purgatory time in Philly. |
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Post by jkr on Jul 29, 2024 15:17:56 GMT -5
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Post by folatre on Jul 29, 2024 18:12:56 GMT -5
There a few angles to this outcome. First, what a day for Marty Necas, eh. He gets over a 100 percent raise without giving up a single UFA year. Apparently, Necas and his camp must have dug in and expressed no willingness to sign anything medium or long term for money that he does not consider full market value.
Second, another tough day in a tough off-season for Carolina. Tulsky must have been fearing a one year arbitration award next week would have come in at the $7 million range, so Tulsky kept it a bit lower even at the cost of walking a good player straight into free agency.
And last but not least, what does this not so cheap short-term contract mean for Necas' trade value, assuming Carolina may still be quite open the idea of moving him? As a background comment, I would say Carolina has been disappointed this summer by the offers for Necas. And I do think a guy under contract for two seasons rather than one will help improve offers. However, teams may still be somewhat wary because the successful buyer cannot even start negotiating anything long-term with the player until the July 1, 2025. And my fear would be with the highly questionable contract that Briere just handed out to Konecny (8 x 8.75), Necas and his dad are sitting in Czechia sipping a Pilsner and his old man is saying Martin you are better than this Konecny guy.
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Post by jkr on Jul 29, 2024 19:00:30 GMT -5
Love that last line of your post.😀
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Post by seventeen on Jul 30, 2024 0:20:52 GMT -5
Love that last line of your post.😀 I would guess Briere is not on the other NHL GM's Christmas card list any longer. That Konechny contract (and Coutourier's and Sanheim's) are going to be used as comparables by a lot of players. Honestly, Briere was in a bind. Konechny is a popular guy, the Flyers don't have much in the way of players a fan can get excited about and that left him between a rock and a hard place. It's awfully reminiscent of the latest Gallagher contract, though. |
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Post by Tankdriver on Jul 30, 2024 11:35:34 GMT -5
It's not just Briere handing out candy contracts. The Wild signed Faber to an 8 yr 68 million contract (8.5 avg). That's a lot of cake for a 1st year player who finished second in rookie voting.
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Post by folatre on Jul 30, 2024 18:43:02 GMT -5
Yeah, the Wild are putting a lot stock in one season, albeit a very good season.
As a point of reference, Fox's first NHL was very similar numbers wise to Farber's. However, Fox really grew in 2020-21 and became almost a point a game d-man. And the Rangers gave him the big 7 x 9.5 deal after that additional evidence/body of work came into focus.
Is Minnesota jumping the gun here? Maybe. Pierre Dorion did that with Chabot and perhaps Sanderson. Kevyn Adams obviously was keen to be proactive, so he gave Power 7 years/$8.35 AAV after the kid played one season (35 points in 79 games).
Guerin may have looked at Yzerman digging in and not getting an extension done for Seider last summer and figured now Stevie Y is going to pay a higher premium if he wants the kid under contract long-term.
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Post by Willie Dog on Jul 30, 2024 19:58:17 GMT -5
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Post by Cranky on Jul 30, 2024 21:18:08 GMT -5
This tells me that Perfetti is available. But is he top 6? Or middle 6?
I don't think he has top 6 contender level talent, but certainly 30-30 top end.
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Post by folatre on Jul 30, 2024 21:19:49 GMT -5
Jeje, I agree. That cannot be real. What is puckempire, a Kremlin propaganda channel? Even not knowing what the "pick" is, why in the world would Chevaldayoff give up Perfetti and McGroarty for Necas. Carolina just walked the guy to unrestricted free agency and Winnipeg would not even be able to get a contract ironed out with Necas until next summer.
If one looks at Perfetti and Necas at the same point of their careers, there is not a whole lot of difference. Necas is three years older. So their apple to apple years are: Perfetti, 140 games, 29 goals, 46 assists, 75 points; Necas, 125 games, 31 goals, 48 assists, 79 points. Maybe Necas hit a nice trajectory over his last three years and I am not necessarily predicting that Perfetti will fully match that, but why would Winnipeg's front office simply not contend that Perfetti will see the same growth?
And then the idea that Chevaldayoff would throw McGroarty on top of Perfetti is just silly.
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Post by seventeen on Jul 31, 2024 1:50:08 GMT -5
It's not just Briere handing out candy contracts. The Wild signed Faber to an 8 yr 68 million contract (8.5 avg). That's a lot of cake for a 1st year player who finished second in rookie voting. Guerin's taking a chance (small risk) and locking up his core pieces. Faber is a very good young D. Much like Hughes locking up Caufield and Slaf. They haven't done anything really impressive, production wise, YET. Management can see the where these kids are heading and don't want contract issues getting in the way as they get better. Berg didn't do that with PK and look where that got us (Berg probably would have traded him regardless. Subban was getting all the attention Bergevin wanted). |
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Post by seventeen on Jul 31, 2024 1:52:36 GMT -5
Jeje, I agree. That cannot be real. What is puckempire, a Kremlin propaganda channel? Even not knowing what the "pick" is, why in the world would Chevaldayoff give up Perfetti and McGroarty for Necas. Carolina just walked the guy to unrestricted free agency and Winnipeg would not even be able to get a contract ironed out with Necas until next summer. If one looks at Perfetti and Necas at the same point of their careers, there is not a whole lot of difference. Necas is three years older. So their apple to apple years are: Perfetti, 140 games, 29 goals, 46 assists, 75 points; Necas, 125 games, 31 goals, 48 assists, 79 points. Maybe Necas hit a nice trajectory over his last three years and I am not necessarily predicting that Perfetti will fully match that, but why would Winnipeg's front office simply not contend that Perfetti will see the same growth? And then the idea that Chevaldayoff would throw McGroarty on top of Perfetti is just silly. That's my take too. Tulsky would have to be an idiot to reject that trade. I think McGroarty is going to be more valuable than Necas, all on his own. Then to add Perfetti and a first rounder? Lunacy. |
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Post by Polarice on Aug 6, 2024 6:13:46 GMT -5
Was speaking with my friend Saturday.....he was telling me that Blue Jackets have told Montreal what they want for Laine. They were asking for a bottom 6 center, a 2nd or 3rd pairing dman, B-level Prospect and a late 2nd or early 3rd draft pick.
Players he heard were in the mix were Dvorak, Evans, Harris, Struble, prospects Condotta and Tuch.
He heard that the combination of Dvorak, Harris were likely the ones that would be dealt if Montral was interested. The Jackets offered to retain 25% of the salary if Montreal threw in a higher level prospect.
Take it for what it is, not sure if Montreal is really interested or kicking tires.
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 6, 2024 6:58:07 GMT -5
Was speaking with my friend Saturday.....he was telling me that Blue Jackets have told Montreal what they want for Laine. They were asking for a bottom 6 center, a 2nd or 3rd pairing dman, B-level Prospect and a late 2nd or early 3rd draft pick. Players he heard were in the mix were Dvorak, Evans, Harris, Struble, prospects Condotta and Tuch. He heard that the combination of Dvorak, Harris were likely the ones that would be dealt if Montral was interested. The Jackets offered to retain 25% of the salary if Montreal threw in a higher level prospect. Take it for what it is, not sure if Montreal is really interested or kicking tires. Wow... I'm ok with Dvo going since he's done at the end of the year, I'd rather trade Barron than Harris because of the left/right thing... this would mean Newhook centres the 3rd line Cc-suze-slaf Roy-dach-laine Andeson-Newhook-bgal Pezz-evans-Armia A recovered and engaged Laine playing for his next contract would be amazing It would also mean next year our top six would be Cc-suze-slaf Demidov-dach-laine |
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Post by Polarice on Aug 6, 2024 7:46:05 GMT -5
Was speaking with my friend Saturday.....he was telling me that Blue Jackets have told Montreal what they want for Laine. They were asking for a bottom 6 center, a 2nd or 3rd pairing dman, B-level Prospect and a late 2nd or early 3rd draft pick. Players he heard were in the mix were Dvorak, Evans, Harris, Struble, prospects Condotta and Tuch. He heard that the combination of Dvorak, Harris were likely the ones that would be dealt if Montral was interested. The Jackets offered to retain 25% of the salary if Montreal threw in a higher level prospect. Take it for what it is, not sure if Montreal is really interested or kicking tires. Wow... I'm ok with Dvo going since he's done at the end of the year, I'd rather trade Barron than Harris because of the left/right thing... this would mean Newhook centres the 3rd line Cc-suze-slaf Roy-dach-laine Andeson-Newhook-bgal Pezz-evans-Armia A recovered and engaged Laine playing for his next contract would be amazing It would also mean next year our top six would be Cc-suze-slaf Demidov-dach-laine Pretty scary top 6 for opposing teams. Who do you cover? Even the bottom 6 could produce a few goals. You might move bgal to the 4th line as the 3rd line looks kinda small. |
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Post by Willie Dog on Aug 6, 2024 9:53:08 GMT -5
Wow... I'm ok with Dvo going since he's done at the end of the year, I'd rather trade Barron than Harris because of the left/right thing... this would mean Newhook centres the 3rd line Cc-suze-slaf Roy-dach-laine Andeson-Newhook-bgal Pezz-evans-Armia A recovered and engaged Laine playing for his next contract would be amazing It would also mean next year our top six would be Cc-suze-slaf Demidov-dach-laine Pretty scary top 6 for opposing teams. Who do you cover? Even the bottom 6 could produce a few goals. You might move bgal to the 4th line as the 3rd line looks kinda small. Armia and bgal would be interchangeable |
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Post by Tankdriver on Aug 6, 2024 10:09:55 GMT -5
Was speaking with my friend Saturday.....he was telling me that Blue Jackets have told Montreal what they want for Laine. They were asking for a bottom 6 center, a 2nd or 3rd pairing dman, B-level Prospect and a late 2nd or early 3rd draft pick. Players he heard were in the mix were Dvorak, Evans, Harris, Struble, prospects Condotta and Tuch. He heard that the combination of Dvorak, Harris were likely the ones that would be dealt if Montral was interested. The Jackets offered to retain 25% of the salary if Montreal threw in a higher level prospect. Take it for what it is, not sure if Montreal is really interested or kicking tires. That would change the teams dynamic for sure and is exactly what is needed. I would say yes to any combination of those players mentioned and draft picks. |
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Post by seventeen on Aug 6, 2024 13:08:26 GMT -5
Was speaking with my friend Saturday.....he was telling me that Blue Jackets have told Montreal what they want for Laine. They were asking for a bottom 6 center, a 2nd or 3rd pairing dman, B-level Prospect and a late 2nd or early 3rd draft pick. Players he heard were in the mix were Dvorak, Evans, Harris, Struble, prospects Condotta and Tuch. He heard that the combination of Dvorak, Harris were likely the ones that would be dealt if Montral was interested. The Jackets offered to retain 25% of the salary if Montreal threw in a higher level prospect. Take it for what it is, not sure if Montreal is really interested or kicking tires. That 'ask' is more like I would expect in contrast to some of the rumours going around. Dvorak for sure (He's still a decent player and should help Columbus), but I like Harris and Struble a lot more than say, Barron. I wouldn't trade Struble alone, even up for 2 years of Laine. I have no idea what Hughes would counter with, but I would agree to taking Laine's whole salary, and give up Dvorak, Barron, one of our three 3rd rounders this coming year and Condotta. The usual first line, then Newhook/Demidov - Dach - Laine Gallagher - Newhook or Evans - Roy Guy - Guy - Armia Guys can be Beck, Kapinen, Tuch, etc., whoever impresses at camp. The following year at worst, Demidov is there for sure and some other kids or trade acquisitions will emerge. Oops, I forgot Anderson. No I didn't. |
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