|
|
Post by blny on Feb 11, 2019 14:33:37 GMT -5
A place to put all non-Habs moves, rumours of, etc. between now and Feb 25th.
Start this off with what appears to be further desperation on part of Panthers to add Panarin and Bob.
|
|
|
|
Post by BadCompany on Feb 11, 2019 14:43:58 GMT -5
A place to put all non-Habs moves, rumours of, etc. between now and Feb 25th. Start this off with what appears to be further desperation on part of Panthers to add Panarin and Bob. Poehling, Brook, and our 1st for Huberdeau? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 11, 2019 14:45:56 GMT -5
Poehling, Brook, and our 1st for Huberdeau? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? The rumours are no doubt gonna fly. Huberdeau would be an upgrade, but we've got such a logjam on the wing that we'd have to move someone out. He's also a pass-first player. Where we could use a real shooting thread, I'd be inclined to hold off. |
|
|
|
Post by BadCompany on Feb 11, 2019 14:51:57 GMT -5
Poehling, Brook, and our 1st for Huberdeau? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? The rumours are no doubt gonna fly. Huberdeau would be an upgrade, but we've got such a logjam on the wing that we'd have to move someone out. He's also a pass-first player. Where we could use a real shooting thread, I'd be inclined to hold off. I don't think we're that log-jammed. Huberdeau - Kotkaniemi - Shaw Drouin - Domi - Gallagher Byron - Danault - Tatar Lekhonen - Suzuki - Armia That 4th line isn't your typical 4th line (and certainly not a Julien 4th line), so they would either have to adjust their overall team strategy, or deal those guys for picks, prospects, and/or real 4th liner players. Mind you, it's also also a lineup that's pretty small and not overly tough, but that doesn't figure to change any time soon... |
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Feb 11, 2019 14:52:37 GMT -5
How much of this is TSN's burning desire to create buzz for their deadline show? They can't be happy about the number of deals being made now.  |
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Feb 11, 2019 14:59:31 GMT -5
The rumours are no doubt gonna fly. Huberdeau would be an upgrade, but we've got such a logjam on the wing that we'd have to move someone out. He's also a pass-first player. Where we could use a real shooting thread, I'd be inclined to hold off. I don't think we're that log-jammed. Huberdeau - Kotkaniemi - Shaw Drouin - Domi - Gallagher Byron - Danault - Tatar Lekhonen - Suzuki - Armia That 4th line isn't your typical 4th line (and certainly not a Julien 4th line), so they would either have to adjust their overall team strategy, or deal those guys for picks, prospects, and/or real 4th liner players. Put me in the camp that cares nothing for your 'typical' 4th line. If I had a 4th line of Mackinnon, Rantanen and Landeskog, that would work for me. Why not put pressure on every other team's 4th line? If every coach worried that the other guys would score when they put out their 4th line, they'd roll only 3 lines and by the 3rd period, their team would be gassed. You are correct on the size issue though. We need to be bigger. |
|
|
|
Post by folatre on Feb 11, 2019 15:01:50 GMT -5
Wow, that would be strange. Huberdeau is young, highly productive, and club controlled on a great contract and the Panthers are notoriously revenue challenged.
Why are they worried about a trade and sign for Panerin? He just said a couple of days ago when he changed agents that he is definitely going to hit the market on July 1 so why would Florida waste high end assets acquiring a guy that everyone knows will be available to speak with any and all suitors when the UFA period opens? For me the Florida is a lousy organization so maybe they would do something stupid.
|
|
|
|
Post by seventeen on Feb 11, 2019 15:06:40 GMT -5
How much of this is TSN's burning desire to create buzz for their deadline show? They can't be happy about the number of deals being made now. There's a huge difference between the NHL and NBA. The NBA is crazy and exciting as hell. Teams trade their superstars and first round picks. Can you imagine the Oilers trading McDavid or Pittsburgh trading Crosby? The Spurs traded Kawhi Leonard, the Pacers traded Paul George, the Bulls and Timberwolves traded Jimmy Butler, the KNicks traded Kistaps Porzingis and Lebron moved from Cleveland to LA as a UFA. This is all in the space of a year and a half! Players openly want to be moved. The trade deadline shows are tense and exciting. The NHL? Snooze. If only the NHL had better character and attitude in the GM's offices, we'd see more stuff like the NBA |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 12, 2019 13:35:05 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 12, 2019 18:26:56 GMT -5
A place to put all non-Habs moves, rumours of, etc. between now and Feb 25th. Start this off with what appears to be further desperation on part of Panthers to add Panarin and Bob. Poehling, Brook, and our 1st for Huberdeau? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Depends ... would the addition of Jonathan Huberdeau turn the Habs into Cup contenders ... Marc Bergevin said he wouldn't be trading any of his young assets, but you have to wonder what he'd do if he had a whiff that Huberdeau was available ... he'd be bringing in another local junior superstar, but he'd probably be tagged a liar in cyberspace for moving out some of his top assets ... from the Jan 7th presser ... "Based on what I saw in Vancouver, the future of the Canadiens is very bright," insisted Bergevin. "I'm not going to start mortgaging the future. I know what's coming with the World Juniors, who they're going to be asking for, and I'm not moving these kids. It's going to be a short conversation, I think… If we drafted these kids, it's because we believe they have some potential. That came to the forefront in Vancouver with our prospects that really stepped up their games."Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Huberdeau in the lineup, absolutely, but the team is moving in the right direction and drafting/developing guys like Ryan Poehling and Josh Brook would hard to do ... they're unproven, granted, and we have Nick Suzuki and Alexander Romanov on the way up too, yes, but the chance at developing a strong core for years to come is there and I see Poehling and Brook as part of that ... but, that's not up to me and we've come to expect the unexpected in Montreal ... never know, man, if I were Florida's GM I'd probably jump at it ... Cheers. |
|
|
|
Post by GNick99 on Feb 13, 2019 12:10:00 GMT -5
A place to put all non-Habs moves, rumours of, etc. between now and Feb 25th. Start this off with what appears to be further desperation on part of Panthers to add Panarin and Bob. Poehling, Brook, and our 1st for Huberdeau? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? I wouldn't. What would Florida trade him if they are trying to attract UFAs? |
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Feb 13, 2019 13:52:22 GMT -5
Poehling, Brook, and our 1st for Huberdeau? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? I wouldn't. What would Florida trade him if they are trying to attract UFAs? What would be the net diff between gaining Panarin and losing Huberdeau from an offensive point of view? The Panthers gain 6 mill in cap space though. |
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Feb 16, 2019 7:24:01 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 16, 2019 10:49:18 GMT -5
Good cap dump for Oilers. Apparently Talbot and Hart know one another. |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 16, 2019 14:14:49 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 16, 2019 14:15:10 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by folatre on Feb 16, 2019 17:56:29 GMT -5
Well, since the Rangers are already retaining on Spooner, this is financially a wash for Edmonton and Vancouver.
The Oilers really need top six wingers. Gagner sure is not that. I have no idea what Vancouver is planning to do with Spooner.
|
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Feb 17, 2019 7:49:11 GMT -5
The jets lost to the Sens at home in OT... IMO Chevaldayoff will do something before the deadline
|
|
|
|
Post by folatre on Feb 17, 2019 9:08:09 GMT -5
I know the Jets are still missing Ehlers, nevertheless there is no denying that they are playing well below their potential this month. Of course there are peaks and valleys in any season that lasts six months, but I would agree that Chevaldayoff is probably more convinced than ever that he needs to add in order to get an edge against Nashville and San Jose.
|
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Feb 17, 2019 12:30:01 GMT -5
Meanwhile Marc the Tinkerer continues to look at adding more dreaded role players... because we've won so much with them in the past.
|
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 17, 2019 12:59:22 GMT -5
Meanwhile Marc the Tinkerer continues to look at adding more dreaded role players... because we've won so much with them in the past. There's two sides to that coin. The Habs aren't getting more than a middling pick back at best. We want help now and a 5th round pick isn't going to do that. If Hudon gets us another Kulak, I'd be fine with that. |
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Feb 17, 2019 13:41:25 GMT -5
Meanwhile Marc the Tinkerer continues to look at adding more dreaded role players... because we've won so much with them in the past. There's two sides to that coin. The Habs aren't getting more than a middling pick back at best. We want help now and a 5th round pick isn't going to do that. If Hudon gets us another Kulak, I'd be fine with that. The big problem is Carey is once again giving this team and fans false hope... he's the icing covering a Saperlipopette cake (I'm being harsh here). We cant even get a sniff of a cup this year but he's managed to put us in a potential playoff spot, which means a middling pick when what this team needs is a high end draft pick who can put the puck in the net... the games against contenders in their barns shows the deficiency... we dont match up. |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 17, 2019 14:32:54 GMT -5
There's two sides to that coin. The Habs aren't getting more than a middling pick back at best. We want help now and a 5th round pick isn't going to do that. If Hudon gets us another Kulak, I'd be fine with that. The big problem is Carey is once again giving this team and fans false hope... he's the icing covering a Saperlipopette cake (I'm being harsh here). We cant even get a sniff of a cup this year but he's managed to put us in a potential playoff spot, which means a middling pick when what this team needs is a high end draft pick who can put the puck in the net... the games against contenders in their barns shows the deficiency... we dont match up. Which I why I'm not sold on the mortgages for rentals. Tampa did a masterful job in the third period last night. Throwing away three very high quality pieces for one rental won't put us over imo. Their most important pieces were also acquired through very shrewd drafting and they've addressed other areas through effective trades. I think there is a chance they can't keep Brayden Point. He's an RFA that I'd be all over with an offer sheet. |
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 17, 2019 15:05:16 GMT -5
There's two sides to that coin. The Habs aren't getting more than a middling pick back at best. We want help now and a 5th round pick isn't going to do that. If Hudon gets us another Kulak, I'd be fine with that. The big problem is Carey is once again giving this team and fans false hope... Honestly, buds, I don't feel that "hope" you're referring to ... there's a lot of Habs fans I've talked to that like what the team has done and where they're going from here ... Carey Price is playing like he's being paid to play as the best goaltender in the business ... Reading your description suggests to me there's absolutely nothing on this team after Carey Price and I have to disagree with that, mon chum ... being 2nd in the league in even-strength goals for most of the year comes to mind right away ... Kind of knew that at the beginning of the season ... nothing new ... You won't hear me apologizing for Price's level of play ... No, we're not at the same level of talent Toronto or Tampa is but, again, I kind of knew that at the beginning of the year, too ... the guys deserved a better fate against the Leafs and they couldn't bury their chances against the Bolts ... to me, the Habs are a one of the best of the tier 2 teams and they're still a few years away from being an annual contender ... that's progress because I thought they'd suck bath water this year and nothing is further from the truth ... they've achieved a lot this year, a lot more than most had thought they would, myself included ... Cheers. |
|
|
|
Post by Willie Dog on Feb 17, 2019 15:45:48 GMT -5
The big problem is Carey is once again giving this team and fans false hope... Honestly, buds, I don't feel that "hope" you're referring to ... there's a lot of Habs fans I've talked to that like what the team has done and where they're going from here ... Carey Price is playing like he's being paid to play as the best goaltender in the business ... Reading your description suggests to me there's absolutely nothing on this team after Carey Price and I have to disagree with that, mon chum ... being 2nd in the league in even-strength goals for most of the year comes to mind right away ... Kind of knew that at the beginning of the season ... nothing new ... You won't hear me apologizing for Price's level of play ... No, we're not at the same level of talent Toronto or Tampa is but, again, I kind of knew that at the beginning of the year, too ... the guys deserved a better fate against the Leafs and they couldn't bury their chances against the Bolts ... to me, the Habs are a one of the best of the tier 2 teams and they're still a few years away from being an annual contender ... that's progress because I thought they'd suck bath water this year and nothing is further from the truth ... they've achieved a lot this year, a lot more than most had thought they would, myself included ... Cheers. I dont disagree with a number of your responses but in 2 or 3 years, with good development and resource utilization, when we can match up better with top tier teams will Carey be able to do what he's done this year? If we're a 2nd tier team, then they figure out what their missing and MB goes all in this year or move some assets for the future and I'm talking Weber and Price |
|
|
|
Post by Disgruntled70sHab on Feb 18, 2019 20:19:52 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 20, 2019 12:17:54 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 20, 2019 17:49:27 GMT -5
More to come on this one ...
|
|
|
|
Post by jkr on Feb 20, 2019 18:31:47 GMT -5
BC will be disappointed. |
|
|
|
Post by blny on Feb 20, 2019 19:27:43 GMT -5
|
|
:quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/archetype/6F6VF25GCFF2HFJCOITRJSGNPE.jpg)